server 2003 & 2008 Terminal server & Exchange clarification help

Diakatarnis

Diakatarnis

Diakatarnis

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Hi there,

So heres the problem I'm after a server iwth terminal services to the clients can run their office software etc off the server as mos of them have pretty pants pc's and also because it will be quicker than dragging the 3mb documents accross a vpn then editing them then transfering them back again.

So i had set in my mind that i needed

Server 2003 Standard edition and exchange 2003, but then i started looking around for prices and started seeign server 2008 crop up a lot and for the same price. So i though ok mebbe i should go 2008, so i need 2008 standard and Exchange 2007.

But then i found a site selling terminal server, and so now ive started to doubt myself and thinking mebbe i need terminal server as well and its not included as part of 2003 standard ....

HELPPP ive confused myself so much I need some clarification.

Do i go with 2003 standard or 2008 standard? i need exchange so thats a seperate purchase but 2007 or 2003?

License wise i need 1 cal per user connecting which is fine and 1 license for office per instance being run.

SO many thanks for any enlightening you can send my way :D
 
Server 2003 and 2008 standard both include terminal services, but you need to have the Terminal Server client CALS.

There has been no stand alone Windows terminal server product since the late 90's, as far as I'm aware.
 
There are special CALS for TS I'm afraid.

Last freebee TS was in Windows Server 2000 which allowed 2000 & XP clients as they already had the CAL built in, but no more...

2008 TS is a step up from 2003, being able to project just applications and not the entire desktop, similar to Citrix.
 
indeed the server is dual quad core but even so im trying to steer the client away from pileing loads of apps on it.

So i have to get ts cals and exchange cals? there not a device cal that covers both?....

this is going to start getting a tad pricey for them i think ... anyone know of a package deal where you can get it all lumped into 1 ?
 
Diakatarnis said:
So i have to get ts cals and exchange cals? there not a device cal that covers both?....

this is going to start getting a tad pricey for them i think ... anyone know of a package deal where you can get it all lumped into 1 ?
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If you used small business server the CALs for that include exchange and the Windows device CAL, but you'd still need TS CALs and SBS may not be feasible. Apart from that CALs are all separate.
 
does 2008 come with a different licensing system? or same?

also if i get 5 cals of each, but 10 people connect to the server butttt only 5 are ever on it at any 1 point in time.... will that work? much like schools only but 100 copies of office for 300 pc's because theres only likely to be 100 instances of office running at any one point in time ...?
 
The same but 2003 device CALs aren't valid for 2008. CALs can either be licensed per device or per user. If you licence per user then you need to licence allo people who are going to use TS. If you licence by device then you could limit only 5 machines to use TS, but that means the other machines wouldn't have access.

And you're school scenario doesn't work. Office is licensed per device (installation) assuming they're not using TS.
 
bah will have to be per user as they are located around the country so wont be using the same devices....

hmmm

wonder if theres some 3rd party software that can turn a xp pro box into a ts box? im sure i saw a review on somthing along those lines a while ago mebbe im just going crazzy with all these numbers.

Although i did tell the client what they needed i have a feeling that they have been speaking to their "computer friend who knows all and works for microsoft as a cleaner" and hes told them they only need sbssk2 and it wont cost them more than £800 :\

but even with sbs theres a limit to the number of vpn connections isnt there? not to mention the bandwidth that will be eaten by 5 users trying to drag files and emails accross a 768kb/s up line ... :(
 
The configuration im familiar with. its the licensing that I'm not. also i dont think they want to spend the nearlt £2.5k its going to cost them just for the software and not the time needed to configure it ..
 
SBS doesnt support TS IIRC.

You will need

2 Windows Server Licenses (assuming they're going on separate servers, if not you'll need another server too)

10 User Windows CALs
10 User Exchange CALs
10 User TS CALs
 
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