Setting up wireless internet with cable

Red and White · 25 Sep 2006 at 10:38

a freind asked me to help him set up his wireless interent. i was instructing him over the phone, he has a standard wireless router.

however the house he lives in has cable and so he could not connect the router to the outside line as the cable was going directly into the current router and he said it resembled a aerial cable.

i have no expereince with cable. will he still be ablt to use the wireless router he has or do you need a special cable one?

danieln1 · 25 Sep 2006 at 10:45

Need a dsl router

just takeing a guess he prob got adsl router and hes on ntl???

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Cable_Routers.html

Red and White · 25 Sep 2006 at 10:50

danieln1 said:
Need a dsl router

just takeing a guess he prob got adsl router and hes on ntl???

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatalog/Cable_Routers.html

i guess so

so they have a different input. the one hes got just has a phone line socket

Avalon · 25 Sep 2006 at 14:21

The cable goes direct to the cable modem, the cable modem then has an RJ45 cable that needs to go to the router, if the router is a DSL router (RJ11 aka phone line for the WAN) he will need a new one, nothing at all to do with the phone line though.

Psyk · 25 Sep 2006 at 14:35

Ok well he's one cable, so it has nothing to do with a phone line. The box that is plugged into the co-axial cable (the one that looks like an aerial cable) is not a router, it's a cable modem. You still need that. The cable modem should have a standard network connector. That needs to be connected to the socket on the router than says 'Internet' or 'WAN'.

As Avalon says if it has a phone socket on it, it's an ADSL router and it's the wrong type.

Red and White · 25 Sep 2006 at 14:46

Psyk said:
Ok well he's one cable, so it has nothing to do with a phone line. The box that is plugged into the co-axial cable (the one that looks like an aerial cable) is not a router, it's a cable modem. You still need that. The cable modem should have a standard network connector. That needs to be connected to the socket on the router than says 'Internet' or 'WAN'.

As Avalon says if it has a phone socket on it, it's an ADSL router and it's the wrong type.

ok so plugging the cable modem into a adsl router isnt going to work.

the router he has, has 4 network ports but im guessing its not going to work going into one of those

Psyk · 25 Sep 2006 at 15:01

Clerkin said:
ok so plugging the cable modem into a adsl router isnt going to work.

the router he has, has 4 network ports but im guessing its not going to work going into one of those

An ethernet router (that is one that is suitable for cable modem) normally has 4 network ports for computers on your network and a 5th one for connection to the Internet. You can't plug a net connection into one of the 4 lan connectors so no, it won't work.

Red and White · 25 Sep 2006 at 15:02

Psyk said:
An ethernet router (that is one that is suitable for cable modem) normally has 4 network ports for computers on your network and a 5th one for connection to the Internet. You can't plug a net connection into one of the 4 lan connectors so no, it won't work.

didnt think so

cheers for help everyone

ns400r · 25 Sep 2006 at 15:50

If you have 2 routers you can, however, use them together.

Avalon · 25 Sep 2006 at 15:52

ns400r said:
If you have 2 routers you can, however, use them together.

Doubble NAT ... oh that'll be fun

ns400r · 25 Sep 2006 at 16:08

Avalon said:
Doubble NAT ... oh that'll be fun

That's why there is the "disable" option in the menus.

tolien · 25 Sep 2006 at 16:17

ns400r said:
That's why there is the "disable" option in the menus.

Might be a disable option - not that you'd see the ADSL router performing NAT if you weren't connected to the RJ11 WAN port...

ns400r · 25 Sep 2006 at 16:21

tolien said:
Might be a disable option - not that you'd see the ADSL router performing NAT if you weren't connected to the RJ11 WAN port...

Really

Psyk · 25 Sep 2006 at 16:24

ns400r said:
If you have 2 routers you can, however, use them together.

Is there any particular reason you would want to?

ns400r · 25 Sep 2006 at 16:30

Psyk said:
Is there any particular reason you would want to?

Because the house has a cable internet connection and the router for it doesn't have wireless. You have a second ADSL router that is wireless. You want to use a wireless PC on the internet.

Psyk · 25 Sep 2006 at 17:20

ns400r said:
Because the house has a cable internet connection and the router for it doesn't have wireless. You have a second ADSL router that is wireless. You want to use a wireless PC on the internet.

Yeah I get it. But you wouldn't want to if you didn't already have the equipment.

as the cable was going directly into the current router and he said it resembled a aerial cable.

This probably means his friend is actually talking about a cable modem rather than a router.

ns400r · 25 Sep 2006 at 17:43

Psyk said:
Yeah I get it. But you wouldn't want to if you didn't already have the equipment.

No, not really.

Psyk said:
This probably means his friend is actually talking about a cable modem rather than a router.

Sounds that way.