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haah love people like your brothering law you should show him this thread and point and laugh! my pc did not even cost £1000... fair enough i had my own monitor/hd/psu... but its still funny!
 
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Yea rroff all was at stock, the best bit is ( well not for the likes of us on here ) that he sold the old system which was very handy indeed for peanuts. He had no idea what to do with it didnt want it cluttering up his house so took it to his local computer shop and sold it to them!! Thay had his eyes out big time over the price. Basically he got £500 for a qx9770 a asus 790i board 4gb ddr3 ram and 9600gt's in sli. I think it had 2 500gb drives in raid to and one of those asus xonar cards. Plus obviously ih had an os which was vista premium,
 
Wow. he got owned by that shop too. Should have given it to you to strip apart and sell on the members market...

those Xonar cards aren't cheap... The only types of computer i would ever buy from a place like dell or pcworld are laptops, and even then i'd be searching online for the best deal for ages. I'd probably come back to here and get a custom built one!

still, with my £1300 worth of computer (money i paid for it, not what its worth now) makes it hard for me to justify £500 for a decent-ish laptop.
 
most prebuilds are not that good unless you specifically ask for it to be built in a certain way,i mean just look at the alienware pcs,for what you pay there crap
 
Although he did no doubt pay over the odds there is much to be said for these dell systems.

Stability is usually very good as all the components are rigorously tested together, so it's unlikely to have any compatibility issues, such as ram not liking the motherboard etc.. The drivers used are certified and fully tested with the whole system.

Support can be excellent (depending on warranty chosen), with replacement parts sent out next day, and swapped on site.

All your drivers and updates are easily located on 1 web page so self maintaining is easy.

From a pure speed perspective you can do much better with self or shop custom builds. However for ease of use/maintenance/purchase/support he could have done worse.
 
I would take the Q9550 at 3.6ghz personally, your friend would be better off replacing the motherboard with one that allows overclocking but I guess he will want to keep the warranty intact.
 
Always seems to be the case with Dell, reasonable processor but the rest is **** for the money. The only time I'd consider buying one (which would be second-hand), is if I needed to sort out a complete PC in a hurry and didn't have any spare parts. Oh, and only if it had an OS licence/software with it.
 
...So the question I pose is this which chip would be better in the day to day world of gaming, surfing, music & dvd playback and a little word processing an i7 @ 2.66 or a Q9550 @ 3.6. The reason I ask is for my money bags brother in law cash is no problem but just for once I would like to be able to say he was ripped, however I might be wrong!!

How much time did it take you to learn about over clocking etc, and build a PC etc. How much would that time cost your BIL if he had done it? Considering what he is paid per hour. Do you factor that in your cost comparison.

Does he game? Does he need a 3D game?

For most of those things, word processing, music, DVD, surfing, speed of the PC is almost irrelevant.
 
Yeah I'd say most people who buy pc's from Dell get ripped regardless.

Give him 3Dmark by Futuremark and see what his score is.

Firmark is also quite a good benchmark.
 
How much time did it take you to learn about over clocking etc, and build a PC etc. How much would that time cost your BIL if he had done it? Considering what he is paid per hour. Do you factor that in your cost comparison.

Does he game? Does he need a 3D game?

For most of those things, word processing, music, DVD, surfing, speed of the PC is almost irrelevant.

You've overlooked that he spent £1000 on a machine for those things...
 
Only thing wrong with his old system was the 9600GT SLI, no way is that good enough for a QX9770, even at stock. Should have just put in a decent graphics card in his old rig, and perhaps add a nice Intel SSD (I recently went from raid0 hard disks, to a single Intel SSD and my god its an improvement)

The i7 isnt a huge technology jump, infact its almost the same as a Q9xxx series. The core processors are mildly retuned, but basically exactly the same, except they Intel put hyperthreading back in.

Yes, its true that Intel added an integrated in die memory controller, but the fact is that since Pentium IV intel have had a remarkably efficient cache controller which can reliably guess what data is needed from memory, and get it cached before its needed. Thats why even with a Quad core on a socket 775 the performance is still very good. Any gains he makes from the integerated memory controller are being wasted with the DDR3 being so heavily underclocked.

Yes i7 is newer, and slightly better, but your not using "Old / Obsolete tech" in your computer, and your SLI GTX275's take a lot of beating, even compared to the current latest models.

Not that i7's are inhierently bad, but a system with such bad overall design is just going to be a disappointment.
 
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