Shaming in the media - School Kids vs Native Americans

[No1newts]

Who's is they? This doesn't just affect some small portion of Trump or Brexit voters. Distrust of the media isn't a good thing in general and stuff like this just feeds into that narrative.

Is distrust of the media arguably not a good thing these days when it has been shown time and again all media outlets are not reporting news impartially, but instead peddling the agenda of whoever their paymaster is.

It's a sad state of affairs we cannot trust them to be impartial but we should no longer trust that, whatever side of the debate they sit.

 

[dowie]

Is distrust of the media arguably not a good thing these days when it has been shown time and again all media outlets are not reporting news impartially, but instead peddling the agenda of whoever their paymaster is.

It's a sad state of affairs we cannot trust them to be impartial but we should no longer trust that, whatever side of the debate they sit.

Well not it isn't necessarily, I'd much rather the likes of the BBC and CNN had a bit more integrity when initially reporting these sorts of things instead of jumping on the bandwagon, slanting things in favour of identity politics - in reality there was a group of "Israelites" shouting out racist and homophobic slurs, there were some adult native Americans trying to intimidate some school boys, including telling them to **** off back to Europe and there were ether kids, some of them bemused by the crazy Native American man squaring up and drumming/chanting in people's faces... the focus of the story became some random teenager the native randomly chose to square up to and his horrible crime seems to have been - smirking, being white and having right wing political views....

This **** storm then caused countless celebs etc.. to condemn him, demand action from the school etc..etc.. No focus in the story on the people being openly racist, they were briefly mentioned by CNN as African Americans who were preaching the bible nearby. No questioning of the Native American's version of events, no commentary from the side of the boys etc.. there have since been some edits to the stories though the Native American guy who blatantly lied about the whole thing isn't being called out and the kids are still the focus of it all.

This then became an easy takedown for various youtubers - the problem here is that in a lot of other cases the likes of the BBC, CNN etc.. are absolutely fine as sources of news... however if they keep on undermining trust in their content then more people will be driven more towards alternative media - when you've got people watching the likes of RT or InfoWars or random youtubers (and of course once you start down that rabbit hole youtube just recommends more of the same content) you can end up with a rather narrow perspective on the world.

This is applicable not just to right wing types but all sorts of views.... for an example of some of the crazy reactions to this on social media, apparently simply smirking, while being white, is "racist" - this is a post that has been shared a few thousand times - it is nuts, though the MSM have fed this... the poster acknowledges that the boy didn't shout, rage, threaten or even lift a finger... yet the boy is the racist one apparently because he smiled/smirked when someone approached him and squared up.



this is from a blue checkmark person on twitter - another claim that smirking is apparently "Racist"

 

[platinum87]

The point wasn’t so much that some event in the US should mean anything to you but rather the way the mainstream media chose to cover it and then potentially score an own goal after various youtubers show what actually happened. This story was covered by CNN, the BBC etc..

It isn’t that anyone should care about the particular story itself or these kids but rather that events like this that get twisted by those reporting them just feed into the narrative that say “CNN is fake news” etc... Distrust of mainstream news in favour of social media, YouTube etc... is something that is affecting various sides in politics and it probably isn’t a good thing.

I like your point that the story itself is irrelevant and what is important is biased reporting.

The thing is, people who are susceptible to this sort of thing are not worth the time or effort.

Where others blindly follow the truth, remember, nothing is true.

 

[Caracus2k]

Some adults need to take a serious look at themselves and apologise...

Bunch of school kids waiting for their bus, a lot of them sat down, with plenty of space around them for anyone trying to access the memorial with some exchange going on between some of them and thoose weirdo black israleties who were hurling the occasional racist slur at the kids 'cracker' etc.

A bunch of American Indians then decided to 'defuse' the situation by walking right into the middle of the school kids banging drums with one of them doing so within inches of a child's face.The child stands motionless with a look of his face (is that a smirk or maybe a bit of nervousness?).

Cue all out insanity with media personalities inciting actual violence by calling for doxing of the children and their families.

 

[Kutter]

just goes to prove the media has their own agenda and shows you only what they want you to see.

 

[Caracus2k]

just goes to prove the media has their own agenda and shows you only what they want you to see.

Yes strange they didn't think to show the black Israelite guys telling the native Americans they lost control of North America because they had turned away from worshiping the true god, them shouting homophobic and 'paedo' slurs at the school children, racially abusing them by calling them "crackers", calling a back student a ****** (derogatory slur word for black people derived from the Portuguese word for 'black') and an 'uncle tom' and of course one of the native Americans telling the school kids to 'go home'. In the same incident... (and not just to Kentucky!)


But... But some white male kid stood still whilst an adult approached him and banged a drunb inches from his face for no apparent reason....

And it looked like he was defo smirking (or was it a nervous smile?)

So that's defo news worthy with a social media pile on from adults inciting violence (he's practically a nazi don't you know and we all know what you can do to someone when you have said they are a nazi) and for kids and their families to be doxxed

In reality none of this should be international news worthy or even worthy of main stream media coverage in the US at all. But CNN The Guardian and BBC et all lead with the initial narrative and its now another incident in the ongoing culture was of the west.

 

[shadow_boxer]

I include overzealous idiots of all persuasions, nationalist ones just annoy me more.

Pretty much sums up this (non) story. Yawn

 

[dowie]

Maajid Nawaz has highlighted some very dubious twitter reactions, I suspect twitter might be keener to shut down accounts if the political views were different and these sorts of sentiments were shared - especially dodgy that these people have the special blue tick...

 

[IronWarrior]

Everyone is "scared" of the far right and what not, but all these liberals and their blue ticks want to murder, chop up or burn school children.

The few tweets that dowie posted is just the top of the iceberg, far below under the water, there is 100's of these blue tick liberals saying the same thing with 1000's of their followers saying the same, repeating it and drumming it up.

People might ignore twitter and other social media, but these are real people, millions of them, thinking like this, they are dangerous, very dangerous, that's the modern day "left" for you.

I've mostly stopped following political accounts now, because each and every day, I saw messages like this, it's too much to see each and every day, it's toxic and poison to read, it did my head in.

 

[StriderX]

So you're inflating "far-right" with a legal definition, to the entirety of the "left".

Wow cool, you're neat. Got any proof that all the left are the same? no? oh well.

 

[mmj_uk]

What is happening with the media these days is similar to the problem in some sciences, they start with the conclusion they want and then fit the evidence/narrative around it and ignore or explain away anything that doesn't fit.

The problem is all of these false stories about Trump white supremacists etc are firing up people on the left to become violent (resist) and just causing more and more division, I suppose it helps the left to stop their voters from going over to the right because they're so terrified of being branded a Nazi and having their lives ruined by activist SJW and their corporate allies but the same media then of course blame all of the divisiveness they are stoking on Trump.

The "we should kill them all" rhetoric of the left towards these falsely accused kids is similar to the type of hysteria that happens in countries where genocide occurs (mainly communist/socialist countries).

 

[dowie]

The "we should kill them all" rhetoric of the left towards these falsely accused kids is similar to the type of hysteria that happens in countries where genocide occurs (mainly communist/socialist countries).

Yeah it is pretty dubious... it also shows up some social media platforms as being a bit of a farce - prominent controversial figures who are anti the current SJW narrative can get banned or demonetised relatively easily for apparently breaking the rules - for example that Milo guy, he criticised the female ghostbusters movie and insulted Leslie Jones, though he didn't break any rules in doing so... however because some of his followers apparently abused her then he got banned.

On the other hand you've got some of these SJW types complete with blue ticks on their profiles and they've seemingly been allowed to make statements related to carrying out violent acts against some school kids and they're still free to post away.

 

[BowdonUK]

It shows the lowering standards and general intolerence in society these days.

If we go back 10 or 20 years the media at least tried to be professional i.e. neutral in covering stories. These days most writers don't bother. The news is mostly becoming opinion not factual based.

I've often thought the most digusting type of people that have emerged in the last 10 years are these moralising, mostly left wing idiots, that think if they are right then they want to bring down hell on whoever holds different opinions.

I noticed someone on the extreme left said that the maga hat was like the klan hood. I was thinking, well the left would know about the klan hood!

 

[VincentHanna]

Let me guess, somehow the far-right KKK are actually somehow left-wing?

 

[StriderX]

Let me guess, somehow the far-right KKK are actually somehow left-wing?

He'll come back with a deeply inaccurate idea that somehow the democrats support the KKK because of some rally decades ago, when infact it was not the case at all.

 

[wildman]

who cares, we have enough of our own problems to focus on sorting out in the UK to give too many craps about what some idiot school kids in the USA are doing or not doing.

 

[krooton]

It shows the lowering standards and general intolerence in society these days.

If we go back 10 or 20 years the media at least tried to be professional i.e. neutral in covering stories. These days most writers don't bother. The news is mostly becoming opinion not factual based.

The news is mostly becoming clickbait. They just want traffic, not to inform.

 

[VincentHanna]

He'll come back with a deeply inaccurate idea that somehow the democrats support the KKK because of some rally decades ago, when infact it was not the case at all.

Ah, the old "Republicans were slavery abolitionists, Democrats were not" argument.

Never mind that they completely switched places when Democrats enacted the civil rights act and all the southerners switched to the Republican party.

 

[Caracus2k]

Ah, the old "Republicans were slavery abolitionists, Democrats were not" argument.

Never mind that they completely switched places when Democrats enacted the civil rights act and all the southerners switched to the Republican party.

How many southern Democrats switched the Republicans?

 

[VincentHanna]

https://www.history.com/news/how-the-party-of-lincoln-won-over-the-once-democratic-south