Shift work and shift allowences

Uther said:
People at a factory locally do 6-2 one week, then 2-10 the next. They get no extra.
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Yes except they started working a job that they knew would finish at 10pm. In the Ops case, they've gone from a 6:30pm finish to a 10pm finish with no recompense.

If I were in your shoes Op, I'd look for another job as your employer sounds like a douche.
 
I'm only on dayshift/nightshift at the minute, get 30% for night shift. If I'm ever on the three shift pattern of; 07:30-14:30, 14:30-22:00, and 22:00-07:30, I get 27%, 31% and 35% shift premium respectively.
 
My shifts can range from 0500-0100 and the extra allowance is already factored into our salary.

When the tube goes 24 hours next year we wont get anything more for doing full nights too.. and I certaintly didnt sign up to that...they only told us about the 5am starts and 1am finishes. Hopefully something will change before then!
 
Where I work working until 10pm would be considered afternoon shift. I think that you will have to get your heads together and ask for a allowance for working such a pattern. I would be outraged as I hate afternoon shifts and wouldn't want to work them at all for any allowance if I had a choice. So I would be asking to stay off such a pattern or recompense me for the inconvenience. A 15-20% premium (on all hours worked) is not out of the way OR gift hours - say 1.5 extra hrs pay for working the afternoon shift.
Just don't do it for nothing - failing that then start looking for another employer, that usually gets things changed quick if they think anything of you.
 
Uther said:
People at a factory locally do 6-2 one week, then 2-10 the next. They get no extra.
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When I did those old fashioned shifts I used to. 6-2 was normal time, 2-10 was 20% IIRC, and nightshift was 25%.

Now, I work 7-7 continental shifts and get 40% on all hours. (days and nights).

It all depends on how replaceable you are, or how the company values your time.
 
New starters at my place of work don't get shift allowance, however people on the old contracts get 19% for working 0700-1500 / 1500-2300 shift pattern ( alternating pattern). I work a rotational pattern 0700-1400 / 1400-2200 / 2200-0700 and get 26%. If a person on a new contract works my pattern they only get a 10% uplift but nothing for the alternating pattern.
 
If you're not happy with the new hours you're required to work have a look into claiming for constructive dismissal.

A change in working hours is a valid arguement for constructive dismissal (source), although I have no idea whether the change in your hours which be significant enough to make a claim.
 
weringo said:
If you're not happy with the new hours you're required to work have a look into claiming for constructive dismissal.

A change in working hours is a valid arguement for constructive dismissal (source), although I have no idea whether the change in your hours which be significant enough to make a claim.
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Constructive dismissal is, in practice, pretty hard to prove. It also involves quitting your job, which might not be something you want to do.
 
grumpysculler said:
Constructive dismissal is, in practice, pretty hard to prove. It also involves quitting your job, which might not be something you want to do.
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Not to mention the fact that you now have to pay a charge to start Industrial Tribunal proceedings.

As far as I can tell from some of the posters here, you should be grateful that you have a job and take everything the management throws at you; or else you should find another job. Under no circumstances should you have anything which resembles a right.
 
Meridian said:
As far as I can tell from some of the posters here, you should be grateful that you have a job and take everything the management throws at you; or else you should find another job. Under no circumstances should you have anything which resembles a right.
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Getting paid is your right, getting a shift allowance is a perk.
 
1330-2200 is very unsociable, i'd rather do night shifts than those hours, but it is not classed as unsociable hours lol
 
grumpysculler said:
Constructive dismissal is, in practice, pretty hard to prove. It also involves quitting your job, which might not be something you want to do.
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Not to mention a lot of contracts have open ended clauses in regards to ability for the employer to change your hours, which makes for extra hassle as you basically have to get a ruling on that (even if the courts typically favour the narrowest definition of an open clause) before you have a chance of anything else.

Meridian said:
Not to mention the fact that you now have to pay a charge to start Industrial Tribunal proceedings.

As far as I can tell from some of the posters here, you should be grateful that you have a job and take everything the management throws at you; or else you should find another job. Under no circumstances should you have anything which resembles a right.
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Don't disagree but the reality is when it comes to shift allowances they only tend to get paid when they need to be to attract workers, increasingly less and less companies care about their staff and treat them more and more as disposable.
 
Flubble said:
1330-2200 is very unsociable, i'd rather do night shifts than those hours, but it is not classed as unsociable hours lol
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22:00 is an early finish for me, lol

I agree it is unsocial, actually quite a lonely lifestyle. I am at home when people are at work and vice versa.

Only thing is people want services when they are not at work so somebody has to do it.

I think more and more jobs require these unsocial hours. When I started work work shops only opened 08:00-17:30 Monday to Saturday now most are open till late and 7 days a week.

The modern workforce requires far more flexibility, but most workers still want a 09:00-17:00 job.

I personally think anyone outside those hours should be entitled to something, maybe more time off or holiday.
 
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