Soldato
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I see Trump is spewing his usual bravado saying Iran would get obliterated if conflict happened, not exactly the way I'd go about trying to de-escalate things
I see Trump is spewing his usual bravado saying Iran would get obliterated if conflict happened, not exactly the way I'd go about trying to de-escalate things
It's their country... I thought we were over being imperialist and meddling?
So are you saying that so long as us (the west) are not being imperialist, it's alright for another country to bomb the hell out of its people however it likes, without scrutiny? I'm not sure exactly but that's essentially what I'm getting... Also not sure how that is at all relative but I'm glad to see a resident shill popping their head up over the parapets, so fair play to you.
But I'm asking, will you offer the same level of scrutiny when Russia, Syria and Iran bomb the region back to the stone age, without much restraint? I suspect not.I mean we're 'helping' Saudi Arabia massacre children in Yemen and almost to the point of genocidal starvation, so i'll shill for people to not suffer that every time ty.
Put yourself in the shoes of the leader of Iran, the President of the United States is publicly stating that your country will be obliterated if you go to war, most likely you'll decide you don't want that and it'd be a good idea to not escalate things further and start talking. Equally the millions of people who live in Iran will be very vocal about the fact they don't want that either.
But I'm asking, will you offer the same level of scrutiny when Russia, Syria and Iran bomb the region back to the stone age, without much restraint? I suspect not.
Yemen is a bad situation. The Saudi's are bombing a group of people who over threw the government and are essentially similar to ISIS, their slogan is "God Is Great, Death to America, Death to Israel, Curse on the Jews, Victory to Islam". By bombing and blockading Yemen in order to defeat the insane group of religious fundamentalists who've taken over they're also starving a lot of people. The alternative is of course letting that group control Yemen and inflict massive levels of oppression on it's people and probably end up exporting a few terrorists who will come to our countries with the express intention of killing as many of us as possible. The only way to solve the situation would be to go to war properly and send in ground troops, but again thousands of people will die, it'll costs billions and there's zero appetite for that. So what should we do instead StriderX? Stop selling arms to the Saudi's even though they're actually bombing people who literally want to kill us? Great, they'll go buy arms else where and we'll be slightly poorer.
The same Iran who wants to wipe Israel off the face of the planet ?
I'm not sure rational thought goes through any of these nations leaders minds
Oh no, slightly poorer, god forbid we can't explode children's remains over a road by proxy with zero oversight. I knew someone would say someone else would send them arms, good for them, but we ******* shouldn't just hand them out like candy to everyone with a lack of supervision.
Otherwise might aswell just straight up give them to all sides and be truly morally defective, it's all about money right?
In Yemen we have a situation where a combination of Sunni "Al-Qa'ida in Yemen" (AQY), Shia Houthis and Iranian supported "other groups" all lumped under the umbrella of "Rebels" has sparked a civil war from way back in 2010 (becoming a full civil war in 2015), killing tens of thousands in the process so far and by refusing to back down, bringing suffering to millions.
Yet apparently to StriderX it's somehow Saudi Arabia, whose airstrike targeting has been god awful TBH yet has killed far less kids than the "rebels" and has been accidental, who appear to be the main people he blames and not the terrorists ripping a country apart so they can bring their own warped version of Islam to it.
I find that to be an odd attitude.
What the **** was the point of this? other than propaganda value for the mass home audience who can't think for themselves:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48735097
At best it just temporary inconveniences them and shows your hand in terms of ewar capability which could be better utilised at an actual time of need and now allows them a chance to harden their systems against a future attack.
What the **** was the point of this? other than propaganda value for the mass home audience who can't think for themselves:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48735097
At best it just temporary inconveniences them and shows your hand in terms of ewar capability which could be better utilised at an actual time of need and now allows them a chance to harden their systems against a future attack.
It's interesting that you're quite publicly OUTRAGED by your opinion that the west is, by proxy, commiting some heinous acts. Your emotionally charged comment above being quite telling. Yet we see no outrage at what the Russians and Syria are doing, directly striking whoever, wherever, without restraint. I guess it's not really being spun up in the media as much though and being forced upon you in order to create that outrage in you. That or you just don't care and you're therefore just a hypocrite. We both know which of those options it is tooThey already did...
Oh no, slightly poorer, god forbid we can't explode children's remains over a road by proxy with zero oversight. I knew someone would say someone else would send them arms, good for them, but we ******* shouldn't just hand them out like candy to everyone with a lack of supervision.
Otherwise might aswell just straight up give them to all sides and be truly morally defective, it's all about money right?
It's interesting that you're quite publicly OUTRAGED by your opinion that the west is, by proxy, commiting some heinous acts. Your emotionally charged comment above being quite telling. Yet we see no outrage at what the Russians and Syria are doing, directly striking whoever, wherever, without restraint. I guess it's not really being spun up in the media as much though and being forced upon you in order to create that outrage in you. That or you just don't care and you're therefore just a hypocrite. We both know which of those options it is too
It's fairly rational. Israel is basically illegally occupying land that was held by Muslims, they don't like each other very much. It would be irrational for them to attempt to destroy Israel though which is why they haven't done that.
How far back do you want to go on who's land it is.