Shockwave traffic jam recreated for first time

Do your computer models take into consideration that if you leave a gap any larger than a pencil width some **** will jump into the space, not on my watch they don't.
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
I remember studying queue theory whilst at Uni, that included some of the maths behind traffic jams. As already said, all you really need is for people to be a little more observant and forward planning. If people learned to have slightly more breaking distance and thus drop their need to hit the brakes so much, smooth driving on the roads would be a lot easier.
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the problem some people see is when they leave large gaps some ****** will nick it, so they close gaps.

Hell once in london i was sitting/coasting in traffic that was doing 20mph, then stopping, 20mph then stopping, so i was keeping a steady 10mph and not having to stop... untill someone OVERTOOK ME swerved into the gap then slammed his brakes on? i mean what the hell?

This is also why on Motorways that start getting heavy, i stay in the first lane (as you all should), but because no one does, the First lane is empty mostly, or full of lorries that leave large braking zones, so the lane moves much more smoothly.

I've lost count how many times ive gone down the A13 in lane one, driving at 30mph constantly while in the 2nd and 3rd lanes the traffic is bumper to bumper 20mph... why are these guys reducing the size of the road to only 2 lanes? Why are so many people confused when a road has more than 2 lanes and have to drive in the middle?
 
As it happens, I was on the M25 yesterday, doing my usual pottering along with "reasonable" braking distances. Over a 25 mile stretch, just two vehicles pulled out into my bigger than average braking space.
My personal view is that too many people "think" that someone else will pull out, typically as a result of a complete lack of confidence. Just try it for a few days and see. Really doesn't happen that often.
 
I see it all the time, when ever I am in traffic I just normally but it into first and let the car move its self along, the amount of time I see the person behind me stop start is crazy.
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
Just try it for a few days and see. Really doesn't happen that often.
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I get people using up my braking distance almost every single day, very often white van man, but also HGVs that just barge their way into any gap they feel like, whether it's wide enough or not. I also notice you are far more likely to get a tailgater if you leave a reasonable gap in front of you, perhaps people assume you are the dithering git that's causing the queue in the first first place.
 
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I also try to control the flow around me in heavy traffic, but when i was in an auto i didnt really care, and just stop started all day :p

Now im back in a manual, i do just drop it into 1 and pootle along, keeping a distance inbetween me and the car infront, usually you can just keep moving all the time and i imagine this helps save on fuel and wear and tear :)
 
Mr_Sukebe said:
As it happens, I was on the M25 yesterday, doing my usual pottering along with "reasonable" braking distances. Over a 25 mile stretch, just two vehicles pulled out into my bigger than average braking space.
My personal view is that too many people "think" that someone else will pull out, typically as a result of a complete lack of confidence. Just try it for a few days and see. Really doesn't happen that often.
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I'd disagree with this. I found the M25 to be surprisingly ok to drive on when I lived down south but the M8 out of Glasgow and the M73 and M74 seem to attract drivers who don't know what a braking distance is.

There's a reason I leave a safe gap between myself and the driver in front and it is not because I want some pillock to drive into it (without indicating normally) causing me to dab the brakes.
 
LizardKing said:
Finally got fed up of the Exchange, Printers or J:\ packing up for no good reason?? :)
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Nope, i was in the Application Support Department, J drive dropping/printers and e-mail problems rarely bothered me. I was more concerned with getting Autocad up, licenced correctly and having redundancy in place to ensure remote sites stayed productive if they dropped off the WAN.

My friends in the operations department were far more interested in that side :p Although, the users there seem incapable of understanding that i worked in a different department in IT.

User - "Excuse me , The J drive is down!!"
Me - "Have you told the Helpdesk?"
User -"You are IT, cant you fix it?"
Me - "No, i work in a different department, I cant help you"
User - "So what do i do, i cant work?"
Me - "Call the helpdesk"
User - "FOR GODS SAKE"

followed by slamming doors and tutting.

Me - "Bye then"
 
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