Thanks for the details. It's not that I want a new car, I'm after efficiency savings. Driving a 400 mile round trip isn't the issue, it's the amount of fuel I'm using. Yes I can slow down but that doesn't stop the car from being thirsty. I've put it up for sale so we'll see how it goes. If it doesn't sell, I may consider an LPG conversion.
Should I consider replacing my 2.5T....?
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The difference in efficiency with lpg varies between cars, some it's not noticeable at all and others it's significant. Dad had it done on a 2.3T Saab a few years back and it was pretty much the same as on petrol, I suspect smaller turbo engines react better to it. Bear in mind the tanks are smaller so you'll be filling up more often - but it does buy you more range as you can brim both lpg and petrol tanks.
Yeah, I'll be honest, I'm not keen on splashing out on a conversation, despite it being a good idea. My problem is that now I'm looking to buy my own place, I could well be saving £1100 per year by having a cheaper car. It's not just the long runs which worry me about the usage, it's just in general. Don't get me wrong, it's a superb drive and I love driving it and can afford to drive it - I just want tot start making savings.
The only way you'll start making savings straight away is to sell it and buy something of the same or lesser value. This isn't necessarily a bad idea but you do need to bear in mind the risks that older diesels bring - say you bought another mondeo but a diesel at that money, chances are it will need a DMF. This isn't being anti diesel, it's just the reality of older diesel cars. If that happens, you'll wipe out the savings you've made. If I was in your shoes, I'd advertise it privately and buy a Saab 9-3 TiD. Mainly because I like them but you'll get a much newer and lower mileage one for the same money than a lot of other cars and tend to be comparatively reliable
Thanks bud, appreciate your help here. I did actually look at a few of them yesterday, what are they like for reliability? I'll admit though, they are nice.
Also, what kind of mileage would you consider if you were looking? 50-60k?
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I had one for about 18 months and 30k miles - it was faultless. It's a GM engine, EGR issues aren't too uncommon but they're more robust than some similar engines. The TTiD is a lot nicer to drive with a twin stage turbo but a bit more complexity to go with it.
Condition over mileage, mine was on 130k when I got rid of it and it was faultless. It actually popped up for sale again - a high speed 58 reg facelift, the guy had only done a few miles as it was on 135 and he was asking 3k. I'd have had that over a 50k mile older car to be honest!
The 9-5 is also worth a look, it's more equivalent to a mondeo in size. Just avoid the old 2.2 diesel and definitely avoid the 3.0 v6 diesel
Condition over mileage, mine was on 130k when I got rid of it and it was faultless. It actually popped up for sale again - a high speed 58 reg facelift, the guy had only done a few miles as it was on 135 and he was asking 3k. I'd have had that over a 50k mile older car to be honest!
The 9-5 is also worth a look, it's more equivalent to a mondeo in size. Just avoid the old 2.2 diesel and definitely avoid the 3.0 v6 diesel
I had one for about 18 months and 30k miles - it was faultless. It's a GM engine, EGR issues aren't too uncommon but they're more robust than some similar engines. The TTiD is a lot nicer to drive with a twin stage turbo but a bit more complexity to go with it.
Condition over mileage, mine was on 130k when I got rid of it and it was faultless. It actually popped up for sale again - a high speed 58 reg facelift, the guy had only done a few miles as it was on 135 and he was asking 3k. I'd have had that over a 50k mile older car to be honest!
The 9-5 is also worth a look, it's more equivalent to a mondeo in size. Just avoid the old 2.2 diesel and definitely avoid the 3.0 v6 diesel
Well I've found a stunning 9-3 TTiD which would be perfect. I've been over the financials and I think it could work.
I've been talking to a few traders about my 2.5T and while I still have my advert of Auto Trader, I'm keen to know what you think. Currently, the only 2.5T with a good low mileage is priced at £4750 for a Titanium X with 54k miles.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201512099340846
Mine has 39k miles and is a Titanium. I've advertised at £5k, do you think this is too much? All trade offers have been round the £3k mark and while I know I can get more from a private sale, I'd be interested to know what you all think!
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201512099340846
Mine has 39k miles and is a Titanium. I've advertised at £5k, do you think this is too much? All trade offers have been round the £3k mark and while I know I can get more from a private sale, I'd be interested to know what you all think!
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Sounds about right. They seem to be 4.5-6k and all that i have seen have higher mileage.
Spotted this also - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-FORD...766454?hash=item3d122a4a36:g:aBUAAOSwoydWtKkH
Spotted this also - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-FORD...766454?hash=item3d122a4a36:g:aBUAAOSwoydWtKkH
If you are content at 60mph I reckon you'll see well north of 50mpg on a modern diesel. I do 19k a year with 30% urban and 70% A road driving. I stay out of the rat race in the outer lane and get 60mpg from a Peugeot 407 diesel. I've just topped up the tank today at £47.13 with about 630 miles out of the tank at that point. The trip computer was indicating 63mpg.
At 70-75mph it'll do mid 50s mpg. I was never able to get a petrol car to exceed its quoted consumption figures, but sitting in 6th gear in the right conditions and I think most diesels will far exceed their petrol equivalent. Try taking your preferred model out for a test drive doing the sort of driving you normally do and see what mpg it returns. For me the savings have been significant.
At 70-75mph it'll do mid 50s mpg. I was never able to get a petrol car to exceed its quoted consumption figures, but sitting in 6th gear in the right conditions and I think most diesels will far exceed their petrol equivalent. Try taking your preferred model out for a test drive doing the sort of driving you normally do and see what mpg it returns. For me the savings have been significant.
I did just that last night with the Saab 9-3. I reset the MPG readout and went for a 45 min drive which consisted of dual carriage way and my usual drive to work. Managed about 52mpg from the 1.9TiD. While it was a very nice drive indeed, there are things which needed to be addressed on the car - didn't give confidence that there should be nothing else which would go wrong, I know you get a warranty too.
I really don't want to rush it as I still love driving my Mondeo. I'll see how my advert goes - even though I need to include more pics - and then make a decision based on my priorities at that point. I don't know if I'm going to be doing long distance driving frequently but at the moment it's 1-2 times a month doing a 400 mile round trip on some weekends. I've still not found anything I'm 100% set on but time will tell.
Easily, I set my cruise at 65 MPH on my MK3 Mondeo with 3 people in the car and a boot full of luggage (and properly inflated tyres for the load I might add) Scarborough > Rotherham > Worksop = 68.7 MPG on the trip computer, that's with well over 200k on the clock too.
We could arrange a straight swap for your 2.5T if you like, the savings would cover the difference in value!?
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I think your trip computer is a tad optimistic..
Easily, I set my cruise at 65 MPH on my MK3 Mondeo with 3 people in the car and a boot full of luggage (and properly inflated tyres for the load I might add) Scarborough > Rotherham > Worksop = 68.7 MPG on the trip computer, that's with well over 200k on the clock too.
We could arrange a straight swap for your 2.5T if you like, the savings would cover the difference in value!?
That's impressive
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It is a "tad" optimistic, but it isn't a million miles out, I was using fuelly for 6 months & covered 5600 miles, never had less than 53.1MPG to a tank but that obviously included nipping to the shops & sitting in traffic in a morning.
I got bored of using it when a binding rear caliper made me return 47MPG over a tank ruining my "high score" meaning I couldn't be bothered to log in and update it anymore.
That's impressive
I'm sure many would manage it sat at 65MPH for nearly 2 hours straight in dry weather without varying speed at all, I don't think I touched the pedals or turned off the cruise for over an hour.
That's impressive
I agree. But the mk3 Mondeo isn't a modern diesel. It's over a decade old.
That's his point.