should I go xp or home server ?

I wouldn't recommend running any production machine on lowly VirtualPC, too much potential for disaster. :D

server maybe but pc no lol

Yep it's possible to raid...just set it up as normal, WHS should just see the raid as one drive - there's loads of people who've done this - checkout the MS forums. Just make sure you have the correct drivers on a USB stick for setup (W2K3 drivers work)...oh and it's not officially supported by MS.

Personally I'd just set the RAID controller to JBOD or single disks and let WHS do the hard work, makes it easier to add new drives to the pool when you need more space, or remove and replace failing hard disks. You can use any size drive in the pool, unlike RAID which works best with the same size/spec drives. Plus you'll save space if you use the duplication feature.

Why are you set on using RAID? There might be a good reason, and I'd be interested to learn?

PP2 and PP3 are Power Packs...They're just the WHS name for Service Packs but so far have added new features as well as bug fixes. PP2 fixed the corruption bug you mentioned earlier - plus a load of media sharing features. PP3 is in beta at the moment and will integrate WHS shares into W7 libraries, disables the W7 backup reminders and adds a few more features in W7MC - like ability to backup TV programs to the WHS Recorded TV share automatically...adding an applet that shows the WHS status etc.


raid purely because jbod is mainly for hdd spooling, raid will offer me more of what I want which is a dedicated backup on the hardware level, rather than software from whs in which it can be slightly slower in backup, and Id feel more comfortable with raid....
 
Quick question about WHS:

1.) Assume startup and shutdowns are going to be similar to any other Windows box, so like 2 minutes ?

2.) Worried about recovery, if the box failes for whatever reason, how easy is it to either rebuild the OS and get the data or recover the HDD's and put it in another machine ?
 
got it installed on virtual box but alas no folder duplication for some reason it wont let me ... maybe its because i have a single hdd for the virtual hdd or what i dont know ....
 
server maybe but pc no lol




raid purely because jbod is mainly for hdd spooling, raid will offer me more of what I want which is a dedicated backup on the hardware level, rather than software from whs in which it can be slightly slower in backup, and Id feel more comfortable with raid....

Fair enough...if it's your peace of mind, and that's where I came from on previous boxes. But it's pretty reliable, well has been for me over the past 2 years and it saves on storage space. I.e. you choose what to back up or not, with RAID you can't make that distinction.

Also the migrator software runs in the background, so it's not immediate like a RAID, so the software<speed issue doesn't really come in to play.

I've known some people with slow networks and old media PCs have issues with streaming because of the migration, but again I've never seen this, but my kit is pretty uptodate.
 
Quick question about WHS:

1.) Assume startup and shutdowns are going to be similar to any other Windows box, so like 2 minutes ?

2.) Worried about recovery, if the box failes for whatever reason, how easy is it to either rebuild the OS and get the data or recover the HDD's and put it in another machine ?

1. Similar to a Win2k3 machine, so probably slower than XP on the same tin. I never switch mine off, and it manages it's own updates and restarts together with backups of the client PCs in the middle of the night so it's not something I need to worry about. If you don't want to run it 24/7 there's an add-in which you can manage from any client which lets the server go to sleep until a client needs it.

2. As Philydee says, but also you have the ability to add a USB drive to WHS. When added it will ask if you want to add the drive to the storage pool or use it for backup. So effectively you can backup your data to USB pretty easy - never tried this though as I have a second server which clones the first.

The downside is that there is no easy way to backup the system partition from within WHS. So it's either a messy ghost image (because of the way WHS uses tombstones to reference file locations within the storage pool) or the recommended way of a repair install from the WHS setup disks.
 
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If you've got only one disk, it can't duplicate as it has no other disk to duplicate to. Try adding another virtual disk in as a secondary drive?

yeah but i was more thinking towards some one maybe deleteing a file accidently... but i think if i do use it ill just enable guest mode and the little blighters wont be able to do .... anything


Fair enough...if it's your peace of mind, and that's where I came from on previous boxes. But it's pretty reliable, well has been for me over the past 2 years and it saves on storage space. I.e. you choose what to back up or not, with RAID you can't make that distinction.

Also the migrator software runs in the background, so it's not immediate like a RAID, so the software<speed issue doesn't really come in to play.

I've known some people with slow networks and old media PCs have issues with streaming because of the migration, but again I've never seen this, but my kit is pretty uptodate.

the main issue for me is the disks not the software backing g up i know it does this and i know it can be slow whether or not it is is a different thing all together... but if i lost a disk id be gutted and id rather have 1 disk for each in particular thing and then a direct backup of that disk if you get what im rabbiting on about rather than just a large spool ?


as you may of guessed im paranoid about losing my data lol :)
 
Hehe I totally understand - I'm of a similar mind ;)

Don't think of duplication as a backup tho, it's more of a hybrid software raid to allow you to ensure valuable data is retained on two physical drives - to protect you in the event of a failure. Basically you copy files to the WHS, which are initially put on your first drive, it then decides which drives in the pool to move them to, and if switched on, duplicate them to. This is pretty much all invisible to you. You will never see the duplicate (on a day to day basis) and it doesn't provide a backup if you accidentally delete the file.

So think of WHS storage pool as a hybrid raid, rather than backup, but giving you the control over which shares to raid instead of all your data (unless u switch on duplication on all shares).

Edit: Actually what you can do - and setup through RDP on the WHS box is create a set of duplicate shares manually, and run Synctoy to back the shares up. This would create a separate physical share - but if the main reason for this is your housemates accidentally deleting things - I'd go with the guest account - or give them their own read only accounts.

If you want the control of having multiple RAID arrays, separated and under your total control then WHS isn't for you. As I said before WHS can work on a RAID, but it will still try and pool all your RAIDs together, e.g. if you had say 2x1tb RAID1's (4x500gb), Windows would see 2 physical disks but WHS would combine both into the pool on install. Also you cannot control which share resides on which disk within the pool. BTW there is a way of adding arrays or physical disks to the WHS after install, but they can't be in your machine during install!!! But to me this kind of defeats the whole purpose of WHS as it's meant to be simple, secure and transparent, and by the sound of it for you a W2K3 setup or WinXP would be better given the amount of control you want to have.

Anyway, give it a go and let us know what you think.
 
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