should i Raid 0 Two Samsung SpinPoint 1TB?

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Alright Guys, im planning on having Two Samsung SpinPoint F1 1TB SATA-II Drives in my new system ( Mainly for Gaming and browsing net) and was thinking on Raid 0 Them. I dont know how and never done this but i will give it a go i think.

What is the likelyhood of them failing and me losing my data?

Thanks, Any help would be great! ;)
 
I find most fail pretty quickly if they're going to go, so make sure you backup. However, there's a great chance you'll never have any problems, but RAID 0 doubles that chance. They're fast drives, so RAID should fly, though if you lose one you've lost everything. Depending on your budget, you might want to get a smallish SSD for the system drive and then load all your games and data onto just one F1 disk, then you get the speed and plenty of storage still, unless you need more than 1TB?

Either way, I wouldn't recommend RAID 0 for storing data unless you're regularly backing up some other way too. RAID 0+1 would be doable, but doubles the cost of course.
 
alexhull24 said:
I find most fail pretty quickly if they're going to go, so make sure you backup. However, there's a great chance you'll never have any problems, but RAID 0 doubles that chance. They're fast drives, so RAID should fly, though if you lose one you've lost everything. Depending on your budget, you might want to get a smallish SSD for the system drive and then load all your games and data onto just one F1 disk, then you get the speed and plenty of storage still, unless you need more than 1TB?

Either way, I wouldn't recommend RAID 0 for storing data unless you're regularly backing up some other way too. RAID 0+1 would be doable, but doubles the cost of course.
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Thanks for your Reply, So Say i get One F1 Disk and 1 OCZ Solid Series 30GB

Then would i be able to install Vista HP 64 on the SSD and documents Games etc on the F1?

What raid would this Be or dont i need to just Plug and install ?


Thanks!!
 
bob055 said:
Then would i be able to install Vista HP 64 on the SSD and documents Games etc on the F1?
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Yes, but then you're only really going to notice an improvement in boot times from the SSD. Your games, which probably take a large chunk of loading time won't get any loving.

What raid would this Be or dont i need to just Plug and install ?
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It wouldn't be any sort of RAID.
 
Depends what you want, RAID 0 gives you increased performance but decreases reliability in the drives.

RAID 1 mirrors the drives giving backs ups increasing reliability no performance increases.

I personally say get an extra two to go RAID 0+1. :p
 
Daegan said:
Yes, but then you're only really going to notice an improvement in boot times from the SSD. Your games, which probably take a large chunk of loading time won't get any loving.


It wouldn't be any sort of RAID.
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yea cool, im going to Order a SSD and install Vista on that Drive. how would i make my Documents etc be on the F1 Drive?
 
LeJosh said:
Depends what you want, RAID 0 gives you increased performance but decreases reliability in the drives.

RAID 1 mirrors the drives giving backs ups increasing reliability no performance increases.

I personally say get an extra two to go RAID 0+1. :p
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When you run RAID 1 its reading performance is increased as it reads from both disks just like RAID 0, writing is not effected though.
 
i have posted in your other thread (the I7 one)

should have got an corsair, samsung or vertex (has cache). the JMicron drives (core apex g.skill) are not very good (has no cache on them)

only go for drives that have cache on them

(your drive is the STT 64gb one http://www.legitreviews.com/article/954/6/ look at the Write tests on that page)
 
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on overclockers where they list the transfer rate is that correct 90 mb/s seems a bit slow compared to the apex 220 mb/s over double the transfer rate ?

i seriously considering a ssd for op sys and my fav games.
 
I bought a 30gb vertex for os and used a 320gb f1 for programs/games. Loved the speed/snappyness of the os so bought another for RAID 0 so i could fit some of my games on I love it!
 
avatar12m said:
on overclockers where they list the transfer rate is that correct 90 mb/s seems a bit slow compared to the apex 220 mb/s over double the transfer rate ?

i seriously considering a ssd for op sys and my fav games.
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Transfer rate is correct, also does not matter. SSD speed is to do with IOPs not transfer rates. Yes the Vertex drives are a bit faster, but they cost over twice as much per gb. Corsair is best value for money.
 
Perfect_Chaos said:
Corsair were quite a bit behind on performance at the benchmarks i've seen
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Yes Corsair 128GB have slower transfer rates, yes they have somewhat slower random writes compared to Vertex. They're also less than half the price and still give you stutter-free SSD speeds, get two of them and RAID 0 them if you're that worried about transfer rate! :p
 
its not all ways the transfer rate that makes or brakes an SSD

this is my S128 compared to my WD Black 1TB drive the first one is, the WD is faster at Writes until it gets quite low block size but Write performance not really that important its read access that kills hdds just thow an bunch of reads at the same time it can go quite slow

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i had my WD black as my boot drive for an bit and the SSD responds far faster every thing is faster , if you raid 2 S128 drives at 128KB thay operate at the best speed as i find most SSDs do from tests i have seen and tests on my drive get an constant 75MB/s write and 95MB/s read, most game installers only need 20MB/s write as about as fast as it can read from the DVD

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-000-CS&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1427 corsair S128 for £171 (Buy 2 and you get 256gb / £342)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-015-OC&groupid=701&catid=14&subcat=1427 vertex 128gb for £320

norm do not recommend RAID with SSDs due to TRIM command may not work when it comes out
 
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