Should I upgrade my motherboard?

Livewire88 · Tuesday at 20:16

Current motherboard is a ASUS TUFF X670E.

Recently upgraded my GPU to a ASTRAL 5090, currently running on a 7800X3D. I am awaiting delivery of a 9800X3D.

I only use the PC for gaming, is there any point in upgrading to something like a ASUS ROG X870F motherboard?

Thank you

Gray2233 · Tuesday at 20:19

Absolutely zero point in changing motherboard, you'll gain no performance increase.

If you game at 4K you might not even see much if any improvement going from a 7800X3D to a 9800X3D either, even at lower resolutions it isn't a change I'd have bothered to make.

Tetras · Tuesday at 20:42

Livewire88 said:
I only use the PC for gaming, is there any point in upgrading to something like a ASUS ROG X870F motherboard?

Nope, just make sure your BIOS is ready and put the 9800X3D in your X670E board.

Livewire88 · Tuesday at 22:29

Gray2233 said:
Absolutely zero point in changing motherboard, you'll gain no performance increase.

If you game at 4K you might not even see much if any improvement going from a 7800X3D to a 9800X3D either, even at lower resolutions it isn't a change I'd have bothered to make.

Thank you. I was aware the CPU won't likely be much of an upgrade, but I cant help myself!! The wife keeps buying things for herself, which keeps forcing me to do the same

Tetras said:
Nope, just make sure your BIOS is ready and put the 9800X3D in your X670E board.

Thank you. I assume (please correct me if I'm wrong) id just swap the CPU's, enter bios on boot and make sure the new CPU is recognised?

Tetras · Tuesday at 22:31

Livewire88 said:
Thank you. I assume (please correct me if I'm wrong) id just swap the CPU's, enter bios on boot and make sure the new CPU is recognised?

Yeah, but I'm talking about making sure the BIOS can recognise the CPU before you do it. Not the end of the world if you don't because you can use USB flashback, but usually easier to flash with the old CPU installed.

hornetstinger · Tuesday at 22:37

Livewire88 said:
Thank you. I was aware the CPU won't likely be much of an upgrade, but I cant help myself!! The wife keeps buying things for herself, which keeps forcing me to do the same

Thank you. I assume (please correct me if I'm wrong) id just swap the CPU's, enter bios on boot and make sure the new CPU is recognised?

Don't waste your money

Spend it on a audio system...bet you are using the monitor speakers lol

mattyfez · 2025-09-17T00:12:56+0100

Nope.

Put the money towards a new keyboard or mouse or some sort of quality of life upgrade.
Speakers are a good shout if you don't have decent speakers.
Decent mouse mat, better headset, the list is endless depending on what would benefit you best.

Livewire88 · 2025-09-17T06:03:20+0100

Tetras said:
Yeah, but I'm talking about making sure the BIOS can recognise the CPU before you do it. Not the end of the world if you don't because you can use USB flashback, but usually easier to flash with the old CPU installed.

Thank you, I will be straight swapping the 7800X3D out for the 9800X3D, so am hoping the BIOS will recognise the new CPU straight away.

hornetstinger said:
Don't waste your money

Spend it on a audio system...bet you are using the monitor speakers lol

No, my 4K, 32inch, 240hz, OLED doesn't have built in speakers I'm afraid

iamgigglz · 2025-09-17T08:54:22+0100

Livewire88 said:
Thank you, I will be straight swapping the 7800X3D out for the 9800X3D, so am hoping the BIOS will recognise the new CPU straight away.

Worth checking that your BIOS is up to date first. Sucks when you button up your PC and it doesn't POST - you then either have to load a BIOS update onto a flash drive on a different PC or bust out the screwdriver again to go back to the 7800 just for a BIOS update.
Even if it does recognise the 9800, you'll get the best performance/PBO etc with a BIOS update.

Take your motherboard upgrade money and stick it in a tin labelled "RTX6090"

hornetstinger · 2025-09-17T08:59:17+0100

Livewire88 said:
Thank you, I will be straight swapping the 7800X3D out for the 9800X3D, so am hoping the BIOS will recognise the new CPU straight away.

No, my 4K, 32inch, 240hz, OLED doesn't have built in speakers I'm afraid

If you've got £400 to spend do it on this rather than pointless AM5 chipset motherboard

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pastymuncher · 2025-09-17T09:38:43+0100

As the others have said it would be a waste of money with no performance gain, I wouldn't even have gone with the 9800x3d, better to wait for the 10800x3d when it arrives next year. In aany case your motherboard requires bios version 2613 for a 9800x3d but you should be on the latest (version 3278) anyway for the security fixes, compatibility fixes and performance tweaks. Update the bios while the 7800x3d is still installed although you do have USB bios flashback so you could still flash it even if you put the 9800x3d in it and it isn't recognised. Update to the latest chipset driver while you are at it.

Tetras · 2025-09-17T13:43:24+0100

Livewire88 said:
Thank you, I will be straight swapping the 7800X3D out for the 9800X3D, so am hoping the BIOS will recognise the new CPU straight away.

You can get the BIOS version with software like CPU-Z and then check on the website for your board, it is very easy to do. Don't just hope for the best

mattyfez · 2025-09-17T14:20:24+0100

Yeah don't leave it to chance.. Less hassle to update bios before hand

Livewire88 · 2025-09-17T15:17:10+0100

pastymuncher said:
As the others have said it would be a waste of money with no performance gain, I wouldn't even have gone with the 9800x3d, better to wait for the 10800x3d when it arrives next year. In aany case your motherboard requires bios version 2613 for a 9800x3d but you should be on the latest (version 3278) anyway for the security fixes, compatibility fixes and performance tweaks. Update the bios while the 7800x3d is still installed although you do have USB bios flashback so you could still flash it even if you put the 9800x3d in it and it isn't recognised. Update to the latest chipset driver while you are at it.

Motherboard is on the latest bios version. Will I need to roll back to 2613 to get the 9800 working? :confused:

fraps · 2025-09-17T15:30:50+0100

Livewire88 said:
Motherboard is on the latest bios version. Will I need to roll back to 2613 to get the 9800 working?

Not at all, the latest version will also support the 9800x3d.

Livewire88 · 2025-09-17T15:44:58+0100

fraps said:
Not at all, the latest version will also support the 9800x3d.

I have just swapped the CPU, straight forward job. Booted PC and its stuck on DRAM light.. has been like that for 15 mins :cry:

Swapping the CPU could not have gone any better, easy remove AIO header, remove 7800x3d, clean off the old paste, apply new to the 9800x3d and re fit the header. Should I just leave it longer? have read the RAM may need to adjust timing for the new CPU but I don't think that's the issue.

iamgigglz · 2025-09-17T15:49:16+0100

Could just be training but 15 minutes is on the long end of what I'd deem normal.

Livewire88 · 2025-09-17T17:28:02+0100

All sorted, it took about 20 mins to boot.

fraps · 2025-09-17T18:21:44+0100

Livewire88 said:
All sorted, it took about 20 mins to boot.

Must have been a long 20 minutes. Glad the power didn't go out.

mattyfez · 2025-09-17T20:15:04+0100

Livewire88 said:
All sorted, it took about 20 mins to boot.

@everyone - out of interest - does ram training always happen? Just I cant say i've ever noticed before.

Case in point I updated the bios on my 5700x3d/b550 MSI board the other day and aside from the rebooting and normal bios update stuff, it didnt really seem to take any longer than usual? the build is only a few months old but the existing bios was about 8 months old, IRRC, so I just updated when i was bored...