Should I upgrade my motherboard?

[Gray2233]

@everyone - out of interest - does ram training always happen? Just I cant say i've ever noticed before.

Case in point I updated the bios on my 5700x3d/b550 MSI board the other day and aside from the rebooting and normal bios update stuff, it didnt really seem to take any longer than usual? the build is only a few months old but the existing bios was about 8 months old, IRRC, so I just updated when i was bored...

It's a DDR5 thing more than anything and you're on a DDR4 platform, it wont happen every single time just first boot or if you edit RAM settings or do a bios reset.

If you are having it happen every time for some reason try turning on memory context restore in the bios.

 

[mattyfez]

It's a DDR5 thing more than anything and you're on a DDR4 platform, it wont happen every single time just first boot or if you edit RAM settings or do a bios reset.

If you are having it happen every time for some reason try turning on memory context restore in the bios.

Ahh right.
My intel system is DDR5 but still it doesnt seem to happen - is it an AMD thing then?

 

[Gray2233]

Ahh right.
My intel system is DDR5 but still it doesnt seem to happen - is it an AMD thing then?

They both need to train memory, but it can take longer on AM5 from what I've seen and experienced. The biggest issues after initial training with the platform are (or were) longer boot times by comparison to Intel platforms.

For whatever reason DDR5 essentially needs to be calibrated to work properly (I might be using the wrong terminology here), the exacts of why I couldn't tell you outside of guesswork.

 

[Moeks]

The DDR5 memory training is just something where the memory controller and the memory figure out between themselves to find the most optimal settings to get the memory to run at the desired speed (note the speed part, they wont automatically set XMP/EXPO mode, you need to set that) the more memory you have the longer this will take and for some reason MSI boards used to take much longer than anyone else's to do it, I think they sorted that out though based on my recent experience with a B850 from MSI where I did not notice any more delay than my Asus or Asrock boards. As mentioned, this is only something that will be done if certain changes are made, anything relating to memory settings, a total BIOS reset and of course a BIOS update or if you change the memory or add more etc.