Should minions be the instrument of rich people?

I actually thought there was a good chance this would be some zany GD thread about bio-engineering the little yellow dudes to do menial tasks or whatever :p

I'll be honest, this is why I actually clicked on it in the first place. Was disappointed.. :p
 
Maybe the local sellers should choose to sell to a lower paying local, rather than a higher paying outsider.
 
Sorry, you can't do anything about it. The same thing happened where my mum lives, in fact, she's one of the people who bought the new properties.

I knew this could happen in Cornwall, it will happen elsewhere. "Local properties for local people" etc. Load of rubbish. Maybe I shouldn't have moved into Rotherhithe and left the properties for the local dock worker families?

Yeah right, I moved from Bermondsey to Welling, Kent, I only stood it for a year, the traffic getting back to civilisation drove me nuts, it wasn’t worth putting the TAXI light on until I was past Deptford.
I bought a new place right on the river at Rotherhithe in 1985, a truck driver bought the house next door, just up the street was another Black Cab driver and next door to him a Thames lighterman.
Nice to be the working class among the barristers, doctors, and captains of industry!

It's difficult, i know places in Wales have added an additional council tax banding system for second homes in the area. The problem is the people affording second homes are happy to pay that so therefore you're not really addressing the issue of quiet periods ruining the community.

I like the scheme in Jersey were locals get a cheaper rate than "outsiders", but i'm not really sure how that's funded/works. If i'm selling a house i'd rather sell it to Mr City Boy for £1m, than John down the street for £200k

You and I both Martyn, and anyone else with more than one brain cell.
 
Maybe the local sellers should choose to sell to a lower paying local, rather than a higher paying outsider.

Winner, winner, chicken dinner!
Have you seen the state of some of these places?

You don't have local sellers in a ghost town :p

Most businesses that can't make enough in the short summer season to last them all year - they went under long ago.

Literally the only local businesses left are the ones that could condense their entire trading year into a few, short months.

In a lot of these places there really aren't many/any locals left! The old fishing villages have no fishermen, and all the industries that supported them have long since died.
 
All the Londoners, what, all of them?

Excellent! I will need to move on some properties soon and those ‘Londoners’ have monies. I’m sitting amongst them as I type this and they are all loaded, one just bought some beers with his phone!!

Are there any ‘Londoners’ left though with monies?? Also, how does one avoid a ‘minion’, can they be staffed out or is there a pill to protect one? Are they those with those dishes on there ‘cute’ houses with something called ‘neighbours’ within a mile of them?

Right, need to speak to Jeeves as some fishermen are coming through my gates and at this rate, running at pace, they will be at my front door around December 4th.
 
Maybe I shouldn't have moved into Rotherhithe and left the properties for the local dock worker families?

Bit different if someone moves into an area and someone buying up who never visits and just rents it out in a manner which is mostly seasonal let.

On a more general note I find this and related topics fascinating in the replies between people who can seemingly only see the problem from the short term and/or have a vested interest and those who can appreciate the broader or longer term picture. And the different realities between people who have to deal with different circumstances and can't see how it affects other people differently who are in different circumstances.
 
Well local people vote for the local authorities so a significant amount of it is up to them if they want to approve more homes etc...

One of my mates owns a holiday home which he's prohibited from renting out, some sort of covenant - not a drama for him, he's happy to have it as a holiday home but for others that might put them off/remove the Airbnb investors.

How far do people really want to go with the "locals only" thing - it all sounds right on when you're talking about "rich Londoners" but locals also include immigrants etc... if only people who were born/grew up there have access to some homes then... well it doesn't sound quite so right on then. The Pakistani doctor who moved to take a new consultant gig at the local hospital is he allowed to buy a house? Does he first need to rent in the area and gain a local address before he purchases?

Some social housing can be restricted that way - have to have lived in the relevant borough for say 5 years and have an income below £XX,XXX per year in order to qualify...

Fact is though Airbnb, holiday homes etc.. do inject cash into the economy - tourism is a big thing too. Perhaps the local authorities don't want to kill that all off by doing anything too drastic.
 
In Cornwall, there's a situation. All the Londoners have gone and bought second homes in Cornwall, or they have taken homes to use to rent out as Airbnb.

So this is the dilemma.
(1) Rich people surely deserve an output for their money as they've worked hard for it. So buying a second home or a holiday home is not that significant a crime.
(2) Local people want the ability to buy in the local area. But should local people have first preference, or should they have to move where the market dictates?

Its solvable quite easily, change the law that a home is a home, and you can only have one home, not a financial asset.

However this would obviously create a ton of problems initially, like where to rehouse everyone who is privately renting, and what about things like the self catering market. I think the latter is acceptable collateral, but the former can only really be ignored if we build enough social houses to rehouse everyone before bringing such a law in.

Also I agree with dowie on that people create their own problems where they keep blocking plans for new houses in their area.
 
but people who block plans for new homes tend to be nimbys, when the people who want the homes tend to be the growing families.(who also are typically politically apathetic)

I think I agree a home should be a home, if rich people want to spend their money, there's plenty of like holiday homes, chalets, caravans that they can do so with.
 
Well local people vote for the local authorities so a significant amount of it is up to them if they want to approve more homes etc...

One of my mates owns a holiday home which he's prohibited from renting out, some sort of covenant - not a drama for him, he's happy to have it as a holiday home but for others that might put them off/remove the Airbnb investors.

How far do people really want to go with the "locals only" thing - it all sounds right on when you're talking about "rich Londoners" but locals also include immigrants etc... if only people who were born/grew up there have access to some homes then... well it doesn't sound quite so right on then. The Pakistani doctor who moved to take a new consultant gig at the local hospital is he allowed to buy a house? Does he first need to rent in the area and gain a local address before he purchases?

Some social housing can be restricted that way - have to have lived in the relevant borough for say 5 years and have an income below £XX,XXX per year in order to qualify...

Fact is though Airbnb, holiday homes etc.. do inject cash into the economy - tourism is a big thing too. Perhaps the local authorities don't want to kill that all off by doing anything too drastic.
You've gone off on a tangent. The thread is about 2nd homes and properties bought for their Airbnb income.

I'm not suggesting people be preventing from moving to Cornwall. We're all free to move around, and live where we please. I might well exercise that freedom to go live in Slough, who knows :p

Also, preventing people from buying 2nd homes will not be the death-knell for tourism.
 
You've gone off on a tangent. The thread is about 2nd homes and properties bought for their Airbnb income.

That's what I'm commenting on?

I'm not suggesting people be preventing from moving to Cornwall. We're all free to move around, and live where we please. I might well exercise that freedom to go live in Slough, who knows :p

Also, preventing people from buying 2nd homes will not be the death-knell for tourism.

How do you propose preventing people from buying second homes?
 
In Cornwall, there's a situation. All the Londoners have gone and bought second homes in Cornwall, or they have taken homes to use to rent out as Airbnb.

So this is the dilemma.
(1) Rich people surely deserve an output for their money as they've worked hard for it. So buying a second home or a holiday home is not that significant a crime.
(2) Local people want the ability to buy in the local area. But should local people have first preference, or should they have to move where the market dictates?


For an outsider to "deprive" a local of a house, a local must at some time of sold the house to that outsider in an equitable financial agreement.

Buying a second, third or tenth home or holiday home is no crime at all...
 
I'm 50 / 50 in this thread.

There should be a need for a rental market, but only to a certain age. 1st year students will get a place in the uni halls of residence, normally run by the uni itself or a private firm. 2nd/3rd/4th year students normally stay in some other student digs such as a house-share found on the university register. After graduating, you might find yourself back in a house-share again for a few more years to keep costs low. By the time you hit 30, you should be thinking about getting your own 1 or 2-bed abode. This is on principle only. The sad reality is that a large chunk of the population are still renting into their 30s, 40s and 50s. This is due to the shortage of buy-able property because they have been taken up by 2nd-home buyers or by landlords who have a portfolio of 3 or 4 rented properties, plus the property that they themselves live in.

I think that landlords should be allowed to rent 1 house out for the purpose of a 2nd income, but no more than 1 house per landlord.

2nd homes shouldn't be allowed because they're empty for half of the year.

If you're rich enough to afford a 2nd home, then stick with 1 home but upgrade to a bigger home. I'm fine with that because it will be lived in year-round!

If you want to holiday somewhere, then stay in a hotel (however many stars you want), a health spa, holiday park chalet, outdoor centre, campsite or stay at family or friends, but not in a 2nd home!

Hell, I'm even fine with people going on cruise ships, even though Greta will disagree with me. The main thing is that the ships are occupied for most of the year as operators run winter cruises as well.
 
Sorry, you can't do anything about it. The same thing happened where my mum lives, in fact, she's one of the people who bought the new properties.

I knew this could happen in Cornwall, it will happen elsewhere. "Local properties for local people" etc. Load of rubbish. Maybe I shouldn't have moved into Rotherhithe and left the properties for the local dock worker families?

But you moved there? So you're now a local.

The issue is randoms owning multiple properties that are used for either renting out or a few weeks a year, pricing out the locals and raising the cost of living in general.
 
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