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Should the type of memory be printed on the card box

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When you buy a new graphics card should the type of VRAM be marked on the box.

The reason I ask this is you can get Samsung, Hynix or Elpida memory all of which have different timings meaning that you can get different performance from your new card.

I think manufacturers should mark the type of memory on the box as to fail to do this means you can not make an informed purchase. You are also paying the same price for the best memory as the worst which also can not be right.

You could be basing your buying decision on a review where the card had Samsung and when you install your new card you find out it has Elpida, this can not be right and I think it is a reasonable argument for the buyer being misled.

What do you think ?
 
On the box or in the web description. If some cards are getting Samsung and I got Elpida, I would feel hard done by.
 
isn't overclocking against the warranty?
Isn't it only when you overclock you notice a difference?
If they don't want you to overclock then showing the memory type is not worth it maybe?

But I do agree it would be nice to see it on the box, am just seeing why they don't.
 
Gregster said:
I asked this question to those who know what is what.

http://forums.midlifegamers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=1443
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This from pulse is interesting.

For me my hynix board gives 400 points more with hynix vs elpida when mem at same clock.(1625). That comparrison you talking about greg is when 2 users in ocuk compared a 290x(hynix) vs 290p(elpida) at nearly same clock, my guess is that xtra shaders in 290x do de rest of the gfx score.
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If it was a 290p v a 290x then that explains where the extra 1000 points came from in that case. 400 in Pulse's case though is nothing to be sniffed at but it does only seem to effect people that overclock.
 
I saw a 1,000 point difference between Elpida at 1625Mhz and Hynix at 1625Mhz.

Unfortunately the testing was flawed as the Elpida could have had memory error correction kicking in and I never tested at stock.

I'm sure Kaap can test this though and confirm if there's any truth to it or not at stock as he has Hynix and Elpida memory on his 290X's.

I would expect to see a small difference (100-200 points) with both cards at 1250Mhz.

Kaap, over to you. :)

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PG Tips could test this too, but vs Samsung. :)
 
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They could do this and maybe have a three tier pricing based on type of memory. Am sure people who buy these cards would not mind at all paying extra for quality, or saving a bit if not overclocking.

Also, how can overclocking void a warranty when most manufacturers have their own overclocking app.
 
freddie64 said:
They could do this and maybe have a three tier pricing based on type of memory. Am sure people who buy these cards would not mind at all paying extra for quality, or saving a bit if not overclocking.

Also, how can overclocking void a warranty when most manufacturers have their own overclocking app.
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It's something am sure I read a while back.. Don't take it as a fact hence the question mark..
 
TheRealDeal said:
This from pulse is interesting.



If it was a 290p v a 290x then that explains where the extra 1000 points came from in that case. 400 in Pulse's case though is nothing to be sniffed at but it does only seem to effect people that overclock.
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I took Matt's testing and didn't believe it would be close to that much and asked people who are world renowned benchers on MLG and they confirmed it. Not much I can really add but again, I would want to know what I am buying in terms of different memory and would be happy to spend a bit extra to get the best.
 
Kaapstad said:
When you buy a new graphics card should the type of VRAM be marked on the box.

The reason I ask this is you can get Samsung, Hynix or Elpida memory all of which have different timings meaning that you can get different performance from your new card.

I think manufacturers should mark the type of memory on the box as to fail to do this means you can not make an informed purchase. You are also paying the same price for the best memory as the worst which also can not be right.

You could be basing your buying decision on a review where the card had Samsung and when you install your new card you find out it has Elpida, this can not be right and I think it is a reasonable argument for the buyer being misled.

What do you think ?
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It's all pretty moot really, you could have a card with better spec memory but the core is a dog and won't clock high, in comparison to a card that has inferior memory but the core is an absolute golden clocker.
 
AMDMatt said:
I saw a 1,000 point difference between Elpida at 1625Mhz and Hynix at 1625Mhz.

Unfortunately the testing was flawed as the Elpida could have had memory error correction kicking in and I never tested at stock.

I'm sure Kaap can test this though and confirm if there's any truth to it or not at stock as he has Hynix and Elpida memory on his 290X's.

I would expect to see a small difference (100-200 points) with both cards at 1250Mhz.

Kaap, over to you. :)

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PG Tips could test this too, but vs Samsung. :)
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Did you not read my post? I'll test the difference between the two.

Samsung Vs Elpida.
 
Gregster said:
I took Matt's testing and didn't believe it would be close to that much and asked people who are world renowned benchers on MLG and they confirmed it. Not much I can really add but again, I would want to know what I am buying in terms of different memory and would be happy to spend a bit extra to get the best.
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It will be interesting to see Geeman's results using different memory clocks. Memory correction could be a big factor as well like AmdMatt said.
 
shankly1985 said:
1. isn't overclocking against the warranty?
2. Isn't it only when you overclock you notice a difference?
3. If they don't want you to overclock then showing the memory type is not worth it maybe?

But I do agree it would be nice to see it on the box, am just seeing why they don't.
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No
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Geeman1979 said:
Did you not read my post? I'll test the difference between the two.

Samsung Vs Elpida.
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No i did not, but cool.

It would be nice to see a Hynix comparison in the mix as well so maybe you can Kaap can sync up to test a few games. Tomb Raider perhaps?
 
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