shouldn't this guy have been sentenced 2 death?

[penski]

Goddamn, I'm hot.

*n

 

[Gilly]

Microsoft Network Messenger.

MSN Messenger.

MSN.

Says MSN Messenger for me:

*n

So that would be MSNM and the stupidest thing to pick someone up on in the world ever?

It started out life as MSM and when the Microsoft Network was introduced became MSNM. Now commonly known as MSN.

 

[fini]

I've always known it as MSN messenger. It started out as Microsoft Network Messenger as far as I know.

agreed - thats why the url for it is http://messenger.msn.com

fini

 

[Pickers]

So that would be MSNM and the stupidest thing to pick someone up on in the world ever?

It started out life as MSM and when the Microsoft Network was introduced became MSNM. Now commonly known as MSN.

I took the MSN thing as a joke

Mine is actually "messenger beta" No mention of Network anywhere.
WLM - Windows Live Messenger.

Please back on topic

 

[Visage]

Holy Thread Derailment, Batman.

 

[sniffy]

My mind doesnt work that way, maybe its something that you are worried about yourself?

Appears your narrow minded also then. I take something as it's implied. Simple as. I don't need to read every reply for use of poor sarcasm. Say what you mean when writing in text, using sarcasm brings across a completely different point and if used poorly it's going to be taken literally. Poor sarcasm along with the use of a smiley is hardly going to put across what you really mean, is it?

Just be a little more thoughtful before snapping and bringing in someone's own personal life - okay?

Please, don't be patronising. You usually won't receive the same treatment back.

 

[penski]

Handbags down, ladies. Can we get back to whether the death penalty is a VeryGoodThing or a VeryBadThing?

*n

 

[Caged]

Mine is actually "messenger beta"

You're on the old Beta then

 

[sniffy]

Can we get back to whether the death penalty is a VeryGoodThing or a VeryBadThing?

*n

Depends on the crime. If it's a disgusting crime, they should be put in conditions where they wished they were dead. That ain't going to happen though.

 

[penski]

Definition of a 'disgusting crime'?

Disgust is a very personal thing.

*n

 

[Sequoia]

If he took his own life, is that justice?

Probably not .... but I'm certainly not going to cry if he did.

 

[sniffy]

The father-in-law rapeing his teenage step-daughter when she was dying from drinking too much and as a result of no help, died.

That's pretty sick.

The father pretty much torturing his few month old son and eventually beating him to death.

That's pretty sick.

You get the picture..We pay for these people to live in cosy conditions WHY?

 

[penski]

The father-in-law rapeing his teenage step-daughter when she was dying from drinking too much and as a result of no help, died.

That's pretty sick.

The father pretty much torturing his few month old son and eventually beating him to death.

That's pretty sick.

You get the picture..We pay for these people to live in cosy conditions WHY?

Because we're not savages and realise that the sanctity of human life is such that it cannot be denied, even to those who have denied it to others?

What would your alternative to the death penalty be?

*n

 

[sniffy]

Because we're not savages and realise that the sanctity of human life is such that it cannot be denied, even to those who have denied it to others?

What would your alternative to the death penalty be?

*n

I think you'll find the majority of the public do NOT want a child murderer living in cosy conditions. Not one person I know would accept what you said when it applies to people like that. Is that actually your own opinion?

To answer your question. A true punishment for me would be total isolation, 24/7 with no creature comforts. You, in a white padded room, for the rest of your life.

 

[Sequoia]

Because we're not savages and realise that the sanctity of human life is such that it cannot be denied, even to those who have denied it to others?

Speak for yourself. There's a sizeable number of people for whom I'm quite willing to be legally 'savage'.

What would your alternative to the death penalty be?

Vat of boiling oil?

 

[penski]

I think you'll find the majority of the public do NOT want a child murderer living in cosy conditions. Not one person I know would accept what you said when it applies to people like that. Is that actually your own opinion?

I gave my opinion earlier...Did you read it? - I abhor the death penalty but encourage life imprisonment. I wouldn't treat a child killer any different from someone who has killed an adult. It's like when you see a news report of a disaster in foreign climes: "thirteen were killed including two children and four Britons..."

Wait a second...Are those individuals special due to their nationality?

To answer your question. A true punishment for me would be total isolation, 24/7 with no creature comforts. You, in a white padded room, for the rest of your life.

See, I'd say an 8' cube, plain grey concrete, food lowered in through a 6" hole in the roof.

*n

 

[sniffy]

I gave my opinion earlier...Did you read it? - I abhor the death penalty but encourage life imprisonment. I wouldn't treat a child killer any different from someone who has killed an adult. It's like when you see a news report of a disaster in foreign climes: "thirteen were killed including two children and four Britons..."

Wait a second...Are those individuals special due to their nationality?

I see what you mean and I agree about the media coverage. I think the killing of a child just represents the complete malicious intent behind it. This wasn't two blokes rucking outside a pub and it goes too far. These are people planning on killing innocent children and that's just so sick minded it begs comprehension. But yes you are right, a life is a life.

See, I'd say an 8' cube, plain grey concrete, food lowered in through a 6" hole in the roof.

lol. Yeah, padding would be too good for them.

 

[Pickers]

death penalty is a VeryGoodThing or a VeryBadThing?

*n

I've always swayed between to be honest. But I'm pretty certain that life in prison would be the way to go - its just a shame that it doesnt always work like that.

 

[Von Smallhausen]

Your a funny guy.

Heard the likes of Ian huntley receiving any harsh treatment from his in-mates? You do, very rarely, because he isn't sectioned with regular in-mates and is guarded almost constantly when in the company of regular in-mates.

You don't hear it because the prison authorities do not broadcast the fact that people like him are targetted.

Attacks in prison happen almost everyday and they range from a good kicking to having boiling water with sugar in being poured on you.

Huntley is a target and will be until the day he dies because of the gravity of his crimes and the bad feeling it generates with other cons, not in for crimes against children. The authorities wouldn't want a murder hitting the headlines so that is why he is protected so to speak, he has to be as he unfortunately has rights.

At one point, the cells next to him and the ones above were empty to stop cons trying to tunnel through to get him.

He is placed on solitary and other segregated wings because they have to. If he was to go on the main wing, he would be killed within a short space of time and in the nastiest circumstances you can think of.

 

[Pre_Empt]

So if, say, one day they get into a fight, and while defending themselves accidentlally kill someone, you'd be happy to see them executed?

I'm actually against the death penalty, which I should have put in my post.

I don't see how they could be executed for defending themselves.

People do die in fights but its pretty rare. It's not like i'm going to teach them how to crush someone's larynx! Well, not until their old enough to appreciate the consequences.

Most murders, rapes etc, could be prevented with a little self-protection training and a lot of commonsense. It's like people walk round in a trance, only waking up when reality hits them (usually through a punch or worse).

If you have people you care about, you have to think about what their doing to protect themselves or what you can do to help them. Telling kids not to go with strangers sadly isn't enough these days.