Shucked 12 or 14TB Hard Drives any good (for a NAS)?

Whiffle · 29 Jan 2020 at 13:55

Hi there.

I am on the look out for a new 12TB hard drive and have just come across "shucking".

I could get a 12TB WD My Book and save quite a lot - could even go for a 14TB.

However, it seems that the hard drives are Whites as opposed to Red.

I am going to be using the drive, on its own, in my server (and Odroid HC2).

Are the White labels reliable enough to take the risk?

Minstadave · 29 Jan 2020 at 13:57

The WD Black D10 12TB External Drives have Datacentre drives inside and come up for decent prices quite regularly.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.tw...lack-d10-game-drive-xbox-12tb-review/amp.html

hornetstinger · 29 Jan 2020 at 14:01

Ridiculous the price difference between the two I want nas.drives but they're a good £590 more

hornetstinger · 29 Jan 2020 at 14:03

That usb hd is 7200 so probably loud for a nas

Minstadave · 29 Jan 2020 at 14:19

hornetstinger said:
That usb hd is 7200 so probably loud for a nas

Meant to be very quiet:

https://www.servethehome.com/hgst-wd-ultrastar-dc-hc510-10tb-sata-hdd-review/5/

They've dropped to £210 a few times, been very tempted as I dont think you can get a better drive for the money.

Whiffle · 29 Jan 2020 at 14:49

hornetstinger said:
That usb hd is 7200 so probably loud for a nas

Is that the WD Black or the White Labelled drive, taken from a My Book, that I mentioned?

The abovementioned 10TB would be amazing for £210. Unfortunately, I probably do need 12TB and the prices for those are considerably more.

Minstadave · 29 Jan 2020 at 14:59

Whiffle said:
Is that the WD Black or the White Labelled drive, taken from a My Book, that I mentioned?

The abovementioned 10TB would be amazing for £210. Unfortunately, I probably do need 12TB and the prices for those are considerably more.

The WD black D10 was 12TB and £210. Its come up for that price twice in the last few weeks. I've got an alert setup on Hotukdeals in case it comes back on offer.

PiKe · 29 Jan 2020 at 15:01

£159 for a 12TB WD Elements drive, white labels are absolutely fine, you should backup anything you can't bare to lose anyway as any drive could fail.

Whiffle · 29 Jan 2020 at 15:26

Minstadave said:
The WD black D10 was 12TB and £210. Its come up for that price twice in the last few weeks. I've got an alert setup on Hotukdeals in case it comes back on offer.

Sorry - I am with you now. I thought Ultrastar was Hitachi, but had forgotten that they were now part of WD.

PiKe said:
£159 for a 12TB WD Elements drive, white labels are absolutely fine, you should backup anything you can't bare to lose anyway as any drive could fail.

Thank you.

If that is the case, even better - I have just read that Elements are essentially My Books but with a more re-usable outer case and (more importantly) cheaper.

Where can you get them for £159? Cannot seem to find any under £205.00.

PiKe · 29 Jan 2020 at 19:23

Seems like they're out of stock now, they were available earlier in the week, check HotUKDeals and set an alert.

hornetstinger · 29 Jan 2020 at 19:40

PiKe said:
£159 for a 12TB WD Elements drive, white labels are absolutely fine, you should backup anything you can't bare to lose anyway as any drive could fail.

That is good 12tb for £160. White label in elements I have a 8tb.

Not sure if they have pin thing

PiKe · 29 Jan 2020 at 19:50

Assume most do, but a bit of tape fixes that. Or a molex to SATA adapter if it's going in a pc.

Whiffle · 30 Jan 2020 at 11:56

Amazing - thank you so much for this.

Depending on what comes up first as a deal, I shall go for either 12TB or 14TB.

hornetstinger · 30 Jan 2020 at 12:27

Pah store that 14tb on 5.25" 120k single sided floppies.

Whiffle · 30 Jan 2020 at 12:34

Got to stick with the "Hard" Disk - my Mrs won't stand for a floppy.

FreeStream · 30 Jan 2020 at 16:37

Currently running four 10TB (shucked from elements) versions in my UnRAID server.

Will be replaced with 14TB ones during the next significant discount period.

Whiffle · 31 Jan 2020 at 12:53

Thanks, FreeStream - you clearly seem happy with these hard drives if you are thinking of using more.

Purely out of interest - what do you store on your current 20TB (I assume that you are using two of the drives for redundancy)?

FreeStream · 31 Jan 2020 at 13:31

Other than the annoying pin 3 disable thing (which all four of mine needed) they've been great.

You can clearly tell they are end-of-run drives as all four have slightly different designs of backplanes which I assume is as per their volume customer requests.

Actually 30TB - One parity.

15TB is backups, 5TB is free and 10TB is TV Shows/Films I've taken from DVDs/Blu-Rays so I can have them all via Plex instead.

I'd also look at the WD Duos - They are also on offer occasionally too. WD Reds with 3 year warranties. Looking to get a few of those this year if possible.

Minstadave · 2 Feb 2020 at 08:26

The 12TB D10 and the 14TB white labels are back on offer.

Whiffle · 3 Feb 2020 at 12:31

Minstadave said:
The 12TB D10 and the 14TB white labels are back on offer.

Brilliant - thank you very much.

Ordered a 14TB, which should keep me going for a bit

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FreeStream said:
Other than the annoying pin 3 disable thing (which all four of mine needed) they've been great.

You can clearly tell they are end-of-run drives as all four have slightly different designs of backplanes which I assume is as per their volume customer requests.

Actually 30TB - One parity.

15TB is backups, 5TB is free and 10TB is TV Shows/Films I've taken from DVDs/Blu-Rays so I can have them all via Plex instead.

I'd also look at the WD Duos - They are also on offer occasionally too. WD Reds with 3 year warranties. Looking to get a few of those this year if possible.

Ah right - I have something similar.

I tried Plex but, for some reason, could not get on with it. I ended up using Kodi with a shared MySQL databse on my server.