Sicario 2: Soldado - Summer 2018

Scam said:
That opinion is so much "expert on a computer forum" it's quite funny. Sorry, I don't mean to be rude. But really? Out of the whole film that's your takeaway? :confused:
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No it's not my take away from the whole film, it's just explaining the bit of the film I didn't like and why, thats all.

"Armchair expert" - yeah theres some of that to be fair, I was in the military to 20+ years and saw how people do it "properly" yet never did it myself but there are hundreds of vids on youtube etc of real people doing it for real which matches what I've seen previously which gives me some opinion on it. Doesn't make me right/wrong though, it is just an opinion in the end.
 
Trailer #2


So it looks like Brolin vs Del Toro - that should make for an interesting film!
 
ianh said:
No it's not my take away from the whole film, it's just explaining the bit of the film I didn't like and why, thats all.

"Armchair expert" - yeah theres some of that to be fair, I was in the military to 20+ years and saw how people do it "properly" yet never did it myself but there are hundreds of vids on youtube etc of real people doing it for real which matches what I've seen previously which gives me some opinion on it. Doesn't make me right/wrong though, it is just an opinion in the end.
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Aside from the tactical movements with a gun, what did you think of the actual content of the film and the story it told?
 
~>Dg<~ said:
your not the only one i couldnt even finish the first one was like watching paint dry.hoping the 2nd is better.
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Weird, I saw it at the cinema and was literally on edge of my seat from 30 minutes in. I was absolutely pumped by the time they started down the tunnels.

I would seriously give it another go.
 
Hopefully they keep using some of the soundtrack from the first one such as in the trailer.

Looking forward to this but it'll be interesting to see if they do a 30 min build up to a pay off like the first one did.
 
Glanza said:
Looking forward to this but it'll be interesting to see if they do a 30 min build up to a pay off like the first one did.
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Judging by the trailer I doubt it. Looks like they've made a generic action film based around the cartel story. Sicario was probably one of my favourite films of the last 5 years, this looks like a very cheap imitation :(
 
MookJong said:
Aside from the tactical movements with a gun, what did you think of the actual content of the film and the story it told?
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I liked the story, where the action was secondary to the breakdown of character/self that Blunt was forced to go through, and depth that it portrayed the Americans were willing to go to prevent the Cartels getting a foothold in the US. I thought the cinematography of the Texas/Mexico border was fantastic with a matching soundtrack that really amped up the tension without giving it much release, making you feel constantly un-nerved. I though the CIA /Covert side was acted in a very well delivered and believable way although I would have liked to have seen more Del Toro backstory and I thought Blunt did a respectable job of showing how quickly someone who is supposed to be "top of their game" can get lost in the murky depths of covert work, going from a calm collected "agent" at the start to someone burnt by her experiences by the end which, in real time, would have only been a few weeks.

However I didn't think Blunts partner brought much to the film and felt a bit 2 dimensional, I felt that story had no real arc to it, other than Blunts collapse nothing else was really changed by the end of the film despite all the bloodshed which made it feel a bit nihilistic as a story (may have been a deliberate effort by the script TBF).

I'd really would have rated it higher on my own personal scale but, and I'm sorry to labour the point so much so please feel free to stop reading at this point but............

I just get a huge "NOPE" mental block whenever I see Blunt portraying a FBI HRT member. These are people who train with Tier 1 folks like Delta and DEVGRU just to give you an understanding of just how highly trained her character is supposed to be (i.e. not just a simple "SWAT" or "field officer" type person) so when you she the actress looking "wrong" during the action phases (more like a desk officer out in the field) it makes me incapable to looking past the "it's just a film" thoughts, especially when almost everyone else looks so "right" doing the same things, which is why I'm so looking forward to seeing those people "doing it right" having a second crack at the story.
 
ianh said:
No it's not my take away from the whole film, it's just explaining the bit of the film I didn't like and why, thats all.

"Armchair expert" - yeah theres some of that to be fair, I was in the military to 20+ years and saw how people do it "properly" yet never did it myself but there are hundreds of vids on youtube etc of real people doing it for real which matches what I've seen previously which gives me some opinion on it. Doesn't make me right/wrong though, it is just an opinion in the end.
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My recollection was that she wasn't part of an elite tactical team, but more of a strategic team... wiki backs me up so I must be correct which introduces a big flaw into your argument... :p
 
She's a member of the FBI Critical Incident Response Group and specifically a member of the Tactical Operations Section which comprises of the HRT and the FBI SWAT teams.................:p
 
I can't think of a movie that needs a sequel less then the original...

Don't get me wrong, it's one of my favourites but... why? The first was so beautifully self contained and unique.

Eh, it's not that I'm particularly bothered about the idea. The original will always exist, I just don't understand what on earth you could do with a second entry and with no Deakins, Villeneuve or Johannsson on board I'm really not that fussed to find out :/
 
Watched it at the weekend.

What was everyone's thoughts?

It almost lost me when Benecio Del Toro suddenly came alive again with just a mouth wound and then looked absolutely fine 1 year later.

Almost
 
DrToffnar said:
I can't think of a movie that needs a sequel less then the original...

Don't get me wrong, it's one of my favourites but... why? The first was so beautifully self contained and unique.

Eh, it's not that I'm particularly bothered about the idea. The original will always exist, I just don't understand what on earth you could do with a second entry and with no Deakins, Villeneuve or Johannsson on board I'm really not that fussed to find out :/
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This to be honest.

I may get round to watching it I guess.
 
DrToffnar said:
I can't think of a movie that needs a sequel less then the original...

Don't get me wrong, it's one of my favourites but... why? The first was so beautifully self contained and unique.

Eh, it's not that I'm particularly bothered about the idea. The original will always exist, I just don't understand what on earth you could do with a second entry and with no Deakins, Villeneuve or Johannsson on board I'm really not that fussed to find out :/
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I felt the same prior to watching it, Sicario is up there in my all time favourite movies but the sequel was surprisingly good even without the inclusion of the holy trinity.

@VincentHanna In regards to your spoiler I was hugely shocked however i've read enough and seen enough documentaries to know that it's not actually that far outside the realms of possibility. So i'm with you on the 'almost' :)
 
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