***Sid Meier's Civilization VII***

Efour said:
Still another 6 months on this stinker to air it out with free DLC.

And I bought the founders edition, boy oh boy.

It always amazes me how since 5 they seem to completely forget how to make civ games and what people want....

Turning civ into 3 mini era sub games was by far the weirdest choice for a decade, it's getting back on track.
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The mini era sub games feels like a mod I want to be able to turn off.
 
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Tbh 6 is my favourite over 5 because I don't really think there's a great difference between them from memory.

I can understand 7 had to break the mold somewhere...
 
civ 6 is my favorite followed by 4 (which I used to mod for) - civ 7 is by a far way the worse and I've played every civ iterations including the spin offs like revolutions , civ beyond earth and even the call to power 'Activision alternatives'
 
Pretty wild that Civ VII is one of the twelve stop selling new games of 2025 on Steam given the amount of negativity its garnered. Actually it's pretty striking that four of those top twelve get "mixed" reviews; seems customer satisfaction is alarmingly unmoored from sales in the current market.
 
The concurrent player count tells you everything you need to know though. Civ 5 is consistently doubling 7 and 6 is doubling that number again.
 
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Mr Jack said:
Pretty wild that Civ VII is one of the twelve stop selling new games of 2025 on Steam given the amount of negativity its garnered. Actually it's pretty striking that four of those top twelve get "mixed" reviews; seems customer satisfaction is alarmingly unmoored from sales in the current market.
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But imagine the pre-sales on Civ7. Huge franchise with unstoppable levels of goodwill. I pre-sunk £70 in the upper tier offering and have played a pitiful number of hours. It just isn't enjoyable. I'm playing Civ6 far far more. But back in January I was happy to give my trust to the developers of a series that I love and have bought every single iteration (consoles excluded). There will have been many many like me. So personally I'm not surprised it's a big seller that is unloved.
 
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But imagine the pre-sales on Civ7. Huge franchise with unstoppable levels of goodwill.
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True, but I still expected the negativity to have hit sales more than they seem to have done, or maybe there's just fewer contenders for those top twelve spots than I'd have guessed at. I'm one of the few in this thread that actually likes Civ VII but there's no denying it's not been overly popular with the fan base.
 
PlacidCasual said:
But imagine the pre-sales on Civ7. Huge franchise with unstoppable levels of goodwill. I pre-sunk £70 in the upper tier offering and have played a pitiful number of hours. It just isn't enjoyable. I'm playing Civ6 far far more. But back in January I was happy to give my trust to the developers of a series that I love and have bought every single iteration (consoles excluded). There will have been many many like me. So personally I'm not surprised it's a big seller that is unloved.
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I was going to preorder the £99 founders edition. I haven't preordered a game since MOO3.

So glad I stuck to my guns.
 
Dr Jack said:
I'm not sure what to think of Teach so far, he has a very different feel to the other leaders which I guess is a good thing. The piracy thing is neat, but it effectively creates a low-level forever war with every other civ, including the ones you're trying to be friends with as until you get to the highest friendship level your boats are considered hostile by them. Finished the first age, now to try out "Republic of Pirates" in the second.



Exactly this. I think they're likely to end up with a game that fails to really deliver for those of us that like the ages whilst still disappointing those that hate them. A compromised vision is unlikely to really sing.
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But people might like it if it has a classic mode?

Note that I hated civ 6 at launch as I thought it was dumbed down and simple, started liking it after the 2nd expansion, and only loved it after all the extra's from the season pass.
Every new civ launch feels bland and boring and dumbed down compared to the last one with all expansions.

I have it on android (civ 6) which means no expansions/only base game and it feels very bland. It's (that and the always online DRM which prevents me from playing on airplanes) the whole reason I bought a Steam deck.

But since it is so poorly received and rated, I will boycott 7 until it costs a tenner or so.
 
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