Signal at roundabout query

TheVoice · 18 May 2015 at 13:00

Be grateful it wasn't this roundabout near me:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@57.5...m4!1e1!3m2!1sg0-U8jaOZ_2O2EJ1FioZ7w!2e0?hl=en

Hidden exit from the bank car park just to your left, parking spaces on three sides, and then a bus stop where the coaches just stop in one lane. Utter nightmare.

Ryan-3 · 18 May 2015 at 13:04

I had a mate - who can't drive and is pretty bad at directions - try and explain a roundabout similar to that when I dropped him off. I knew where he needed to go, but I pretended I didn't so he had to try and explain as we got to it. Was hilarious.

megakid · 18 May 2015 at 13:05

A major is a bit harsh but I wouldn't have indicated until I was alongside the left hand exit as per usual.

Drangueos · 18 May 2015 at 13:13

Well... on the roundabout sign doesn't show that exit..
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stZ8unSMZBjhuOUDDduBK1Q!2e0

But if I was going straight I would not even bother to give any signal.

Havana_UK · 18 May 2015 at 13:17

tom_e said:
People like that really annoy me, "Oh I'm already half way into ploughing you off the road but wait it's ok I've just flicked my indicator on!"

****ing *****!

The good old "I've just left the motorway/changed lanes/turned left or right" indication.

It's manoeuvre, signal, mirror, right?

tom_e · 18 May 2015 at 13:20

Havana_UK said:
The good old "I've just left the motorway/changed lanes/turned left or right" indication.

It's manoeuvre, signal, mirror, right?

I find it goes more like manoeuvre, did I just hit you with my wing mirror yes (signal and claim I didn't see you), no (sod it just keep on going never mind how close I got), check mirror for dead bikers.

Trifid · 18 May 2015 at 13:33

Looks to me like it is a exit that goes to farmer field, so could be a valid route for the OP to take.

skaif · 18 May 2015 at 14:25

That is a harsh fail, especially considering that you only got 5 minors! Surely its down to the testers discretion? I thought you only get majors for potentially dangerous driving? Or hitting a kerb? Anyway, it sucks, better luck next time eh?

kaku · 18 May 2015 at 14:28

People are saying it's harsh to be failed for it but the whole purpose of the test is to demonstrate that you can drive safely and use the road correctly. The roundabout wasn't used correctly so it's a fair fail in my book.

In general even if you think "it's obvious what I'm doing and other people will know that" you still need to go through the motions and do everything by the book.

peterwalkley · 18 May 2015 at 14:41

Havana_UK said:
It's manoeuvre, signal, mirror, right?

Sounds about right for round here .... Manoeuvre, signal to show what you just did, mirror to admire the havoc you just caused.

Justintime · 18 May 2015 at 14:44

Havana_UK said:
The tester is correct in his explanation, but I'm of the opinion that a major fault is a little harsh in these exact circumstances.

Me too.

Phonesis · 18 May 2015 at 15:07

I forgot to mention something else about this. Check the sign for the roundabout:

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stZ8unSMZBjhuOUDDduBK1Q!2e0

I saw this and identified 2 things:

a) Not to signal before that left turn off before the roundabout (I almost did and that would have been a major as would be a misleading signal)

b) My turn at the roundabout was the first one - so a left signal was appropriate. The field exit wasn't marked. I mentioned this but it fell on deaf ears.

tom_e · 18 May 2015 at 15:11

I imagine it's much like blindly following a sat nav, you go on what you actually see on the road rather than what a possibly outdated sign is telling you.

Minstadave · 18 May 2015 at 15:14

That's really harsh

slick rick · 18 May 2015 at 15:21

I think it is a little unfair TBH, as it isn't really an exit in my opinion but I am not a driving instructor or tester so my opinion doesn't mean squat.

BigglesPiP · 18 May 2015 at 15:32

That; is an exit.

The tarmac doesn't go far, but looks like there is a road there, with a gate.

Edit:
Actually, I revoke that, it's hard to find, but there is a sign! https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@50.9...ata=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1stZ8unSMZBjhuOUDDduBK1Q!2e0 Though I'm 50% sure you're still not supposed to indicate yet.

Scania · 18 May 2015 at 15:45

Harsh arguably but examiners are harsh for a reason.

In his mind, he's viewing that exit as if there was a vehicle in it waiting to join the roundabout, the OP's action of indicating as soon as he joined the roundabout could have been construed by the hypothetical vehicle as the OP's intention to leave at that first small exit and resulted in the hypothetical vehicle subsequently pulled out into the OP's path and causing an accident.

That's why he was harsh and gave you a major, because in his hypothetical situation it alas was exactly what it was, a major fault on your part OP.

Kaeo · 18 May 2015 at 16:06

pepsilol said:
This is as black and white as it gets. That is an exit.

Couldn't put it more clearly myself.

Outcast · 18 May 2015 at 16:11

If that was me and assuming you were going straight on then I wouldn't have indicated at all anyway.

You were NOT changing direction and it's impossible to indicate "straight on".

But that's just me.

opstrat · 18 May 2015 at 16:11

not an exit. not signposted as one. looks more like access for council works