Silly question (AS5 application)

meghatronic · 29 Aug 2006 at 23:06

What's the best way to apply AS5 to an E660 (with a Scythe ninja plus)?

I've read conflicting methods....

Massive Attack · 29 Aug 2006 at 23:23

use a credit card, well not credit card but use a tesco clubcard etc to evenly spread the paste

SiriusB · 30 Aug 2006 at 00:23

No need to evenly spread the paste - the HSF will do that for you when you mount it. It will do a better job of it too.

SiriusB

Massive Attack · 30 Aug 2006 at 00:27

SiriusB said:
No need to evenly spread the paste - the HSF will do that for you when you mount it. It will do a better job of it too.

SiriusB

Bah

jellybeard999 · 30 Aug 2006 at 02:13

when it was open die cpus, the credit card method was better, as squidging it onto the surrounding transistors wouldnt be too great, but now all cpus (near enough) come with a IHS, just put a small (half a grain of rice) bit in the centre, and it will squash down and fill all the necessary gaps

meghatronic · 30 Aug 2006 at 07:48

Rofl...

I've been told anything from a half grain of rice to 1.5 grains to 2 full blown grains!

Guess it doesn't really matter...

Just thought I'd check!

jellybeard999 · 30 Aug 2006 at 09:02

jdickerson said:
Rofl...

I've been told anything from a half grain of rice to 1.5 grains to 2 full blown grains!

Guess it doesn't really matter...

Just thought I'd check!

depends if its short or long grain, basmati etc etc

The Asgard · 30 Aug 2006 at 09:53

Mounted many, many heatsinks and tried all methods. The blob in the middle and letting the heatsink do the work os OK but not the best. Too much or too little can raise temps. Basically your filling in the imperfections in the two metals. HS - CPU

The method I use.

Take 1 clean finger apply a small blob on the cpu in the middle, say 2mm for AS5 and rub the AS5 out to the edges. You need to spread it so you just cant see the cpu spreader. No silver metal showing. Apply the heatsink. If you have done it right when you try and take the heatsink off you will probably pull the cpu out of the socket because of the strong contact, lol. Obviously only applicable to AMD chips here. Works everytime.

meghatronic · 30 Aug 2006 at 17:45

The Asgard said:
Mounted many, many heatsinks and tried all methods. The blob in the middle and letting the heatsink do the work os OK but not the best. Too much or too little can raise temps. Basically your filling in the imperfections in the two metals. HS - CPU

The method I use.

Take 1 clean finger apply a small blob on the cpu in the middle, say 2mm for AS5 and rub the AS5 out to the edges. You need to spread it so you just cant see the cpu spreader. No silver metal showing. Apply the heatsink. If you have done it right when you try and take the heatsink off you will probably pull the cpu out of the socket because of the strong contact, lol. Obviously only applicable to AMD chips here. Works everytime.

What about on a conroe?

SiriusB · 30 Aug 2006 at 17:57

Probably similar.

SiriusB

The Asgard · 30 Aug 2006 at 18:06

jdickerson said:
What about on a conroe?

Just the same method m8

Sultan of Ping · 31 Aug 2006 at 01:09

Don't use your bare fingers (no matter how clean you think they are!) to spread the thermal compound onto the CPU, as the oils and from your skin will contaminate the TIM and impair heat transfer.

sablabra · 31 Aug 2006 at 06:49

Sultan of Ping said:
Don't use your bare fingers (no matter how clean you think they are!) to spread the thermal compound onto the CPU, as the oils and from your skin will contaminate the TIM and impair heat transfer.

Yup, you could stick your finger in a plastic bag though

meghatronic · 31 Aug 2006 at 07:52

Well last time I did this (you're talking about 3 years ago - I've only had laptops since) I got a cheapy glove from the salad counter at morrisons and just spread it across the whole of the surface of the chip to a very thin layer.

I was just wondering if the surface of the conroe was any different and you needed to avoid any parts etc...

fish99 · 31 Aug 2006 at 10:02

I would stick with the P4 installation method described on the AS5 website, one grain of rice in the centre of the CPU over the core, then fit heatsink and rotate it in the bracket a little either way to spread the AS5 evenly. The main place the AS5 needs to be is over the core where most of the heat comes through, and it needs to be thin to work at it's best.

With the other methods a novice could maybe end up putting too much on.

Ice Tea · 31 Aug 2006 at 11:15

http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_instructions.htm

fish99 · 31 Aug 2006 at 11:25

Just further to what I was saying, if you follow the link above, scroll down to the P4/A64 installation and see how little they use, and how little is on the CPU after they take it off, not enough to reach the edges. If that'll work for a Prescott it'll work for a Core 2 Duo.

sablabra · 31 Aug 2006 at 17:43

fish99 said:
Just further to what I was saying, if you follow the link above, scroll down to the P4/A64 installation and see how little they use, and how little is on the CPU after they take it off, not enough to reach the edges. If that'll work for a Prescott it'll work for a Core 2 Duo.

It'll work, yes, but I think most of us are looking for a optimal result here...

The Asgard · 31 Aug 2006 at 22:12

Sultan of Ping said:
Don't use your bare fingers (no matter how clean you think they are!) to spread the thermal compound onto the CPU, as the oils and from your skin will contaminate the TIM and impair heat transfer.

Twaddle and rubbish

Don't believe the BS on the net. I play with hardware for a living

fish99 · 1 Sep 2006 at 12:32

sablabra said:
It'll work, yes, but I think most of us are looking for a optimal result here...

That is optimal. The other methods will result in too much AS5 which will be too thick and conduct heat worse. There's a reason why the manufacturers of AS5 recommend that particular method for any CPU with a heat spreader.