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So basically, where as the AE86 was a fairly regular looking car that handled great and had a nice engine, this FT86 is designed to look quick yet has been saddled with the power of an asthmatic weasel. So pretty much the opposite so far :p
 
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So basically, where as the AE86 was a fairly regular looking car that handled great and had a nice engine, this FT86 is designed to look quick yet has been saddled with the power of an asthmatic weasel. So pretty much the opposite so far :p

Can't say I dissagree with you in the slightest, at least unless they can keep the weight well under a ton, and I really don't see than happening.
Hence my OP comment of "apparently seen as..."
 
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[TW]Fox;15040398 said:
I really dont see how, all the AE86 was was a fairly mundane, crappy Corolla which the enthusiasts inadverently went bonkers over it as it ended up being one of the last RWD cars of its type and therefore ideally suited to the drift scene.

Whereas this is designed a s sports type car?

That's not really correct. Don't let current day drift mania cloud your judgement of what is an extremely enjoyable mid 80's coupé.

You like your road tests, have a gander at one from the Autocar 1984

Check out the list of competitors on pages 4 and 6.

http://ocukroguesgallery.com/lopez/01.jpg
http://ocukroguesgallery.com/lopez/02.jpg
http://ocukroguesgallery.com/lopez/03.jpg
http://ocukroguesgallery.com/lopez/04.jpg
http://ocukroguesgallery.com/lopez/05.jpg
http://ocukroguesgallery.com/lopez/06.jpg

Interestingly the tester for this review seems to still prefer the Manta, not sure if I agree with him there but as a road car I can see his point.
 
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I need tissues now :(
 
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I love the looks, the photoshopped white one above looks particularly great, not sure why they chose that gash maroon colour for the concept...

Anyway, I agree on the disappointing power output but im fairly certain they will bring this out and then have a turbo version on the market within a year. Doesn't top the 370z for me though, unless its a shed load cheaper.
 
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Yeah but you just know they will stick a turbo version out, if not, they will be selling the conversion bits on ebay ;)

I would be very surprised if that car ever makes it over here to be honest.

And the reason they will only put a small engine in this car is that Toyota are very wary of emissions across the range, they want to not only achieve the emission targets set but smash them (hence why the Supra probably will not make it over here).
 
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I loved the sound of this when it was announced, such a shame its not got a decent powered engine. Hopefully they'll get a "STi" version out with a turbo and at least 250bhp...

Will be interesting to see if Subaru do a mirror version...
 
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I was thinking about this on the way to work.
I know that it's being co-developed with Subaru, but was that the deciding factor in engine choice? If not, then why not use the 190hp 1.8 that's in the Celica? That would be far more in keeping with it's heritage. Failing that, are they lining up to offer a US version with 140hp and hopefully a Japanese/UK version with a sodding big turbo and well over 200hp?
Lastly, 1360kg really isn't good. I know it's got a roof, but that puts it at 200kg more than an MX5, which is going to be an obvious car to compare it to (both have 2 seats, rwd, similar power outputs and estimated prices).
 
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