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Single to Dual core AMD upgrade question

king144

king144

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Hi all ive just bought an opteron 170 to replace my 146 as i thought the socket 939 prices were quite good and i cant afford to buy new mobo, RAM etc to go C2D. The stepping is CCBBE so im hoping to get close to 2.8gig. I dont know much about dual cores so my question is- Is there any extra drivers or apps i need to install when i do the new format with the new dual-core? (im using windows XP) Im asking as ive seen the AMD Dual-Core Optimizer driver and read people moaning about performance drops with dual-cores, im actually starting to wonder if i should've bothered. I have the latest nvidia chipset driver 6.86 and i believe my mobo bios is fine with dual-cores. Should i just format as i usually do with all the latest drivers? and that be it? Do i need that dual core optimiser driver? or the amd driver? i didnt use it with my current amd at 2.9gig. I really appreciate any help u give. Thanx. EDIT- Also should i do the xp hotfix thing?
 
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Yeh i would definetly go and get the dual core optmzer from amd as it improves multitasking, i recently upgraded to an x2 3800 and to start off with i diddnt see the piont of dual core either but i have recently been video encoding on my rig and it is lightniing quick compared to my single core 3700, it takes a while to really notice the difference but u should see a performance increase.

Also i would be carefull on the overclock they get pretty toasty and you need to make sure both cores are overclocked the same otherwise you can damage the second core. Hope this helps ;)
 
So its only the dual core optimiser that i need to install on top of the usual stuff? At what point in the instal should i do it? before graphics drivers etc? about the clocking both cores thing, i thought that when i change settings in the bios these will be applied to both cores or am i missing something? EDIT- i also encode avi's i download to DVD video and convert avi's to mp4 for my mobile so that sounds good, thanks
 
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Dwbreeze1982 said:
you need to make sure both cores are overclocked the same otherwise you can damage the second core. Hope this helps ;)
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You can't clock each core independantly so stop talking carp
 
king144 said:
So its only the dual core optimiser that i need to install on top of the usual stuff? At what point in the instal should i do it? before graphics drivers etc? about the clocking both cores thing, i thought that when i change settings in the bios these will be applied to both cores or am i missing something?
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Nothing is needed

just plonk the x2 in and let windoze do the rest


install drivers if needed
 
easyrider said:
You can't clock each core independantly so stop talking carp
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Just going by what i heard on these forums, just format , install windows and all the other crap and the amd dual core optimiser, doesnt have to be in any order . :cool:
 
not a bad price then, i bought my x2 bout 3 months ago for 120 and sold on my 3700 san diego for 50.

becarefull with ocuks competitors like fleabay as your not alowed to name competitors. Just a word of wisdom :)
 
ok so on the AMD site all i can find which i think i may need is the AMD X2 processor driver and the AMD Dual-Core Optimizer. Can people just confirm for me wether i SHOULD install these drivers and that theres nothing else i need. Thanks guys. I wont be doing it till next week but im just starting to get it straight in my head and do my back ups n all that annoyin stuff.
 
Dwbreeze1982 said:
not a bad price then, i bought my x2 bout 3 months ago for 120 and sold on my 3700 san diego for 50.

becarefull with ocuks competitors like fleabay as your not alowed to name competitors. Just a word of wisdom :)
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OK thanks for that. I forgot. Ive only had to post a couple of times as i can usually find all the advice i need just by readin the ocuk forums. Il edit that one out.
 
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ok so on the AMD site all i can find which i think i may need is the AMD X2 processor driver and the AMD Dual-Core Optimizer. Can people just confirm for me wether i SHOULD install these drivers and that theres nothing else i need. Thanks guys. I wont be doing it till next week but im just starting to get it straight in my head and do my back ups n all that annoyin stuff.
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Theres also the xp dual-core registry hotfix? can anyone tell me if i should bother doing it? Im pretty sure i disable the cool n quiet anyway if that makes a difference. If i can get a fairly definitive answer about these issues from someone who's been happy with their amd dual core performance then i can install and format with confidence. Cheers guys!!
 
Well im not as clear as i would've hoped but your help is certainly appreciated. I guess il have to format n see. Im sure Il be posting again if i run into problems. Fingers crossed eh.
 
Look, first of all, just re-install. The AMD dual-core optimiser (as well as the windows dual-core hotfix) are just there if you encounter problems. The most common of these is likely to be stuttering on games.
If you get this, install one of the above, if you don't, don't bother.
It's necessary to understand that Win XP already includes the ability to assign extra cores to processes & in most caes, it will do so well.
 
Hi :)

I've made a similar move. I'd sold my AMD Athlon 64 3700+ for £70 (*chuckles*) and bought an AMD Opteron 165 off MM a week ago for £90 inc. :)

Also have a CCBBE stepping and am currently sat at 2.6GHz 289*9 with 1.375V set in BIOS. My current issue is CPU temps, with ~60*c being recorded by coretemp fully loaded :eek:. I have a Scythe Ninja on it's way to me. Hoping for around 2.8-3.0GHz with around 1.55V :)

However, I havn't bothered downloading the Dual Core Optimiser. I havn't had any problems so I'll leave it for now.

I simply dropped the new CPU in, Cleared CMOS, then powered up. I went into BIOS to check temperatures, then exitted. Going into Windows, it picked up the CPU change and asked me to reboot. Once restarted, Two CPU graphs appeared in task manager, and that was that.

Let us know how you find it.

Mul
 
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