Sinnis Vista

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I have been hearing good and bad things about Chinese bikes for first time buyers and beginners/leathers, however I jaw risked it and am ordering a Sinnis Vista. I went for Sinnis as they use the Suzuki engine, so should be sweet, and am prepared to go for a cheaper build quality while I practice and learn. Any thoughts?
 
Ok. Sorry about late reply, for some reason I didn't get e-mail confiormation that somebody had replied me.

Anything about relibility, etc?
 
It's just shy of £1,700 brand new, 1 year parts and labour, 2 years manufacturer warranty. All in all I don't think it's bad and will enable me to build experience on. I already have put down a hefty deposit so not pulling out. The only thing I was worried about with a second hand bike was if something went wrong I would have no warranty, and the price of the Sinnis Vista wasn't bad. I am expecting it to have shale, rattle and role as they are cheap parts. It seems that owners really like the bike, it's mainly the non-owners that knock it. Don't know.
 
Dealer is around 10mile from me. Hahaha deposit was £500. Too late now, but I think I will see what happens. I like the way it looks too.
 
Not quite; they use a Suzuki engine design, but the engine itself is built in China under licence. A Japanese design does not mean Japanese build quality.

Most of the Chinese bikes use copies of Japanese engines anyway (Honda and Yamaha mostly), though I suspect the majority are not licenced.

Ok, got ya. Oh well, it is too late now, but I think things will be ok. If not then so be it. Hopefully will be good enough to learn on and gain experience.
 
ACF 50? Sorry am new to the biking world. My CBT is actually on 8th July and I have never ridden or been on a bike before. Will let you know how it goes though.
 
ACF 50 is a anti corrosion agent. Amazing stuff.

Google it :)

Honestly chap, that stuff will save you a ton of ballache later on if you intend on riding all weather on the above bike. I have owned plenty of Ducati's to claim my self a rust and rain expert when it comes to bikes haha.

First thing I would do, is find out if there is a ACF 50 professional home visit sprayer in your area. Get him to come over once you have cleaned the bike spotless and she is dry as a bone.

General up keep would be a tub of grease and a tin of WD40, keep frame joints coated in WD40 and any areas you think that might rub. Secondly, coat ALL electric connections in grease, I don't mean paint it on either, I mean stick fair amount over any naked connections/wires.

Keep all bolt heads nice by putting a bit of grease on them (as in, just a fine layer), all bolts will need to be removed and some lovely copper grease applied to the threads (some, not all, some will require the blue stuff which has escaped my memory). Remember to torque them all up properly.

Your most important point here, is the chain. Now, there are hundreds of ways to do this. But this is mine with the tools I have (assuming you are able to get the rear wheel off the floor and spin it):

WD40 on a rag, spray chain, clean with the rag, if you finish without breaking a sweat or your arm getting tired, you are not finished.
ACF 50 on a rag, wrap your hand around the chain and spin the rear whee
Wurth Dry chain lube on a rag, apply like the above, then spray the chain with it. Wiping excess off after with a clean rag.

I do the above every 500 miles. Takes about a hour if you do it properly.

Now, people will say no the either the ACF 50 or WD40, or both! But in my eyes, the WD40 is a safe cleaning agent, no harm has come from it for me. It clears grime very easily. ACF 50 will keep as much moisture and rain out as possible. Also will repel any water on the chain before it was applied. You will see these blobs form if so! Awsome stuff! ACF 50 works it's way around metal, amazing stuff. Finally, dry chain lube, doesn't fling, once you get going it warms up and does the job fine :)

This chain is over 2,000 miles old now, 6 months old. Using my above method, it still looks brand new. This picture was taken this afternoon

As bad as it sounds it seems like too much trouble! Lol. The bike will be on around 3,000 miles a year on the insurance. Really I am takiung the CBT and getting the bike for relaxing enjoyment, which means not really riding at crazy fast speeds or in the rain much at all. It will be like a 'get away from wife and kids' tool really so I can spend some me time.

The bike will be in a garage - which I am also planning on getting a cover for aswell.

With the back wheel, guy at dealership did sound a bit dodgy when he said just bring it back here for tyre changes as it can be tricky...hmmmm....money making scheme:confused:

Main vehicle is still a car really, and its a Renault Clio, so:

plastic body + water = NO RUST:D
 
You have bought a Chinese bike and they tend to rust at a prodigious rate. If you want to keep at least some of it's value then you need to look after it.

I hear what your saying. Will research what has been advised a bit further in terms of maintenance as I don't know much at moment.
 
I didn't buy the bike for a good return value on it when I go to sell it, I baught it to build experience and if you can ride a cheap bike that vibrates, you can ride one that don't. Hahaha. There are good and bad points so I will see.
 
Indeed.
There is no need to ride a cheap bike that vibrates when you can have a cheap bike that doesn't vibrate for the same money (allbeit slightly older).

Seriously though, if you haven't actually ordered this thing yet, stop and take a look at a used Honda CBF125 or CBR125. They are much better machines and you will enjoy riding and learning a whole lot more.

Already ordered mate.
 
Ok thanks for that:)

Bhogal. Some of the guys here do have a good point on getting a Jap bike but then again if the Sinnis holds up well for the time you use it and you are not fussed about re-sale value when you upgrade to a big bike then it will be like Christmas, birthday, Easter, New Year and your dirtiest fetish all rolled into one climax once you plonk your rear on a Jap/German/British bike!:D

Yea it is a bit too late, but I'm a firm believer of fate so I guess will see where the road leads me. As for future bigger upgrade, will hopefully be working my way up to a Triumph Rocket!!! Hahaha.
 
People are very quick to bash chinese bikes, mainly opinions from people who haven't owned one.

Tighten ALL bolts before your first ride.
Change the oil regularly.
Maintain the chain (replace if it stretches)
ACF50 any chrome parts
Clean the Air filter / plugs at like 5,000 miles
Fill with petrol

Engines on these chinese bikes are solid, it's more the cheaper chrome / metal that you need to look after. If you look after it it will be fine.

This is more or less what I have heard from those who have owned Chinese bikes and is definately something I can live with. I have seen ACF50 spay can on Amazon UK, is this something I can just do myself then rather than getting somebody else to do it?

Again, I plan on doing maximum 3,000 miles a year, which means that the bike will be serviced at a maximum 3,000 miles.
 
Quick update guys. I have had the bike for less than a month and am enjoying it. Not a lot of mileage done, but as mentioned at the beginning of this thread it won't be doing much. Around 77km showing on the bike at the moment. Today was the first time I refueled it since I had it - had it with half a tank in. Filled it as per the guide, I.e. not right to the top and cost shy of £8.00 (134.9 pence a litre), so not bad.
 
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