Six-year-old schoolboy suspended for having Mini Cheddars in his lunchbox...
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Isn't the problem with a sugary snack relative to a sugary fruit the fact that the refined sugar will be digested/absorbed extremely quickly, leading to quick bump in blood sugar and insulin response. Fruit is slower to digest, so you don't get the imbalance.
Coupled with this insulin effect, you have the fact that a faster digesting food doesn't keep you full as long - meaning a tendency to consume more.
Coupled with this insulin effect, you have the fact that a faster digesting food doesn't keep you full as long - meaning a tendency to consume more.
The type of food affects the rate of absorption, but the sugar in a lot of snacks like chocolate is actually absorbed more slowly than many fruits, so the idea that sugar in snacks is absorbed faster than in fruits often does not hold true. Liquids obviously don't have to be broken down so the sugar in them is absorbed faster, this applies to fruit drinks as much as it applies to fizzy drinks though so it really makes no sense to ban fizzy drinks but allow fruit juice, they both have the same amount of sugar and it's absorbed quickly in both cases, and diet drinks are no different to drinking water in nutritional terms. Banning fizzy drinks and snacks is simply not evidence based.
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Your attempt at some wit has failed.
They have not been denied education because of eating mini-cheddars. It is because of the parents attitude after the child was suspended.
Do some reading.
How do you explain the obesity and diabetes epidemic that's observed in the developed and the developing world?
People eating too much food.
The Parents attitude is not a valid reason for expelling or even excluding a child..it contravenes Statutory Guidelines and therefore if that is the case then the School is open to legal challenge.
and then sitting on there over sized back sides discussing it on the internet
The only thing that has really changed in recent time is the affordability of food of all kinds, food has never been more affordable and portion size reflects this go back 30 years and show them a chicken we use to serve a family of 4 and they will see food for 8. Everything is so cheap relatively speaking that eating to excess is no longer an occasional treat it is an every day occurrence for a lot of people.
You can expel a child for continually breaking the school rules, which is what probably happened here.
They did, with the help of the parents.
How do you explain this:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0104742.html
along with this:
http://fasinfat.org/adult-obesity/
20 years, not a lot of changes in the amount of food consumed yet steadily increasing obesity.
I'm just taking a shot in the dark here but could it be related to this:
http://onlinestatbook.com/2/case_studies/sugar.html
Now, if it is true that the child has been expelled due to the actions of the Parent in giving him Mini Cheddars (or what the school decide is unhealthy lunch), even on multiple occasions as opposed to other issues such as bullying, severely disruptive behaviour or non attendance, perhaps you can explain how that sits with the statutory guidelines and where in the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 it states that a Parent disregarding a school policy on healthy eating is grounds for expelling their child from the school?
They did not, as the child has no control over the contents of their lunchbox..besides which there are very clear guidelines on the circumstances that can lead to expulsion of a child, and as was explained to me by the DFE, healthy eating policies are a matter for the school and are not part of the statutory responsibilities of the Parent regarding their conduct or ensuring the conduct of their child in school. It is a matter for individual schools to set out in the HSA policies...to which you can see the relevant parts above.
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The chart you linked to shows a significant increase in the consumption of a number of high calorie foods such as fats & oils and dairy products. However it only shows principal Foods, not snack foods which people now consume a lot of. I don't really see what there is to explain?
Having not read the School Standards and Framework Act 1998 nor being a lawyer I have absolutely no idea. Personally though I don't really think I would want to send my child to a school if it meant being in constant conflict with the school staff.
Obesity and diabetes are not explained by people eating too much food, as shown in the graphs(the % increase of dairy products is significant but when you add it to total food consumption, the overall % is small).
They are explained by people eating too much sugar and junk food (snacks).
These are the reasons given for the explusion:
"Today [Tuesday] the school has taken the decision to permanently exclude a pupil for the following reasons:
- Persistent breaches of school policies.
- During the course of a recent four day exclusion, the pupil’s parents made it publicly clear that their child would not be following the school's policy on healthy eating upon their return.
- The parent school relationship suffering an irretrievable breakdown that would have put two pupils in an unacceptable position. This breakdown was due to misrepresentations in the local and national media that were both wholly inaccurate and grossly misleading, abusive language being used towards staff, and other inappropriate actions being taken that were designed to damage the school’s reputation."
- Persistent breaches of school policies.
- During the course of a recent four day exclusion, the pupil’s parents made it publicly clear that their child would not be following the school's policy on healthy eating upon their return.
- The parent school relationship suffering an irretrievable breakdown that would have put two pupils in an unacceptable position. This breakdown was due to misrepresentations in the local and national media that were both wholly inaccurate and grossly misleading, abusive language being used towards staff, and other inappropriate actions being taken that were designed to damage the school’s reputation."
Note that no mention of a Home-School agreement is made. The abusive behaviour of the parents towards staff is mentioned as is the commitment to further rule breaches.
Well the % is more significant when you consider the fat content of those food products.
Yes, that's what I said, eating too much food...
If they ate fruit or red meat instead of those snack foods they would still get fat.