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mattux

mattux

mattux

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hi there

i need to distribute tv and sky+ all round the house, to about 8 points.
there will probably be 4 sky+ boxes so everyone can watch/record what they want.
will a loftbox meet these requirements or is there another way of achieving the same thing?
at the moment there are single cables run to each point that meet in the loft with the aerials, so ideally i could combine the aerial/sky+ signals onto one cable and then split them at the other end like the loftbox.

cheers

matt.
 
In my house..I have a single coax coming out of the RF2 and going into a TV-signal amp with 6 outputs,With each output going to the other TV's around the house..

On the Tv-signal amp i have a 2-way tee on the input that has the coax cable from the skybox and a coax cable from the standard TV ant..

Plus one of them magic eyes for being able to change the skybox channels in another room.
 
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4 Sky+ boxes? Subs must be damn expensive on that lot!

Problem with an RF distribution and RF2 'Magic Eye' control is that all boxes uses the same IR signals... so you can't distribute all 4 to all 8 rooms, or changing the channel on one feed would change the channel on the other 3.

So then you're limited to one box linked to 2 rooms... which then might get irritating in itself. You'd have to work out which rooms aren't likely to have independent viewers in at the same time.

Then you record something in one room, and because you can't network the boxes, you can't watch it in another.

Generally sounds like a pain, tbh.
 
That is not what he wants to do, he wants 4 separate sky+ PVR's around his home.

Each box will need 2 separate coax runs from a separate LNB feed, so 8LNB feeds needed in total.

The best way to do it from a feed point of view would be with a dual LNB mount and 2 quad LNB's installed on the same arm. You could then undergo the extensive task of taking the coax all around your house. Simply 2 runs to each box. Remember that the total bill per month would be £43 (primary) and then 3*£10pm mirror card subs, making £73pm total payment.

There is no way of combining a signal which would be of satisfactory use.
 
Jez said:
That is not what he wants to do, he wants 4 separate sky+ PVR's around his home.

Each box will need 2 separate coax runs from a separate LNB feed, so 8LNB feeds needed in total.

The best way to do it from a feed point of view would be with a dual LNB mount and 2 quad LNB's installed on the same arm. You could then undergo the extensive task of taking the coax all around your house. Simply 2 runs to each box. Remember that the total bill per month would be £43 (primary) and then 3*£10pm mirror card subs, making £73pm total payment.

There is no way of combining a signal which would be of satisfactory use.
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AFAIK though shy will only run 2 sky+ boxes or 4 regular sky boxes from one dish. I dont know even if you could split the signal if they would even touch it as they claim you can only take 4 feeds off the one dish unfortunaly, but i may be wrong.
 
You can get a octo LNB with 8 outputs but you will require a bigger dish, I havn't ever installed one but think a Zone2 Sky Dish (60cm) is satisfactory.

I would look into a quattro output LNB and a multiswitch.

mattux, if you give us a clear example of how many TV's you have and exactly what you need on each one then we can give a definate answer to the best setup.
 
As far as I know the octo LNBs are not that good if budget is not an issue as Telsa said the Quattro (not quad) LNB with a decent Spawn multiswitch will give you a much better solution and give you the option of future expandability
 
as posted above

the 4 Sky box option is going to be very expensive

the only other option is to run an RF feed all over the house, but then your not going to be able to watch diferent channels in each room or have the ability to record

btw, you say people can record what they want, have you considered what 4 Sky + boxes is gonna cost ?
 
hi there

Tesla said:
mattux, if you give us a clear example of how many TV's you have and exactly what you need on each one then we can give a definate answer to the best setup.
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sorry been bit busy

the client wants a very flexible setup so sky+ boxes can be added as and when needed/or moved. the cabling is hard wired, they dont want cables clipped round here there and everywhere otherwise i guess they would get sky to do it, or get it installed when they require upgrades.

i thought that you would be able to split the sat signal like rf but after further investigation it appears that this is not possible, however someone did mention 'multi switch' but havent looked into it yet. im sure you can split the signal from a cable digital supplier, ie ntl, telewest but cant get it in the area unfortunately

at the moment i have ran 4 coax to living room from booster position and 1 coax to every point with a triplex front plate

MrLOL said:
btw, you say people can record what they want, have you considered what 4 Sky + boxes is gonna cost ?
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the cost is not my concern fortunately as its for a client

thanks for the replies

matt
 
Are you a sparks or house developer (similar?)?

If so, I would really recommend getting in a good professional to do this sort of system.

Many sat installers like sparkys to lay all the cabling anyway. They will make up a plan though and then install all the kit bar the cabling.

As you have said cost is not a concern so really, get in the pro's.

I think a multiswitch is the way forward for this system though.

I am pretty sure you will need at least 2 coax feeds for each sky+ box. There is a company which do a single face plate with 2 sat outputs, and TV and FM outputs too as you can still stick these down one of the cables with one of the LNB feeds.
 
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mattux said:
but i want all the money :D and you live too far away so forget it ;)
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I wasn't suggesting me to do it as I do live a bit too far. I think carpmaster is more in you're area, he's a good bloke too.

My advice would be to get in a pro, I think it's the best advice I can give. I do not intend to cause offence by this comment.

What coax cable have you ran in the property?
 
Sounds like you need a multiswitch, quattro LNB feeding the four inputs, and two cables to each point where Sky+ is required. You won't get away with crap quality coax cable which unfortunately is what most electricians use. Stick with something like Webro WF100 or even better get a shotgun cable like WF100 twin.

You can feed UHF / DAB / FM into the multiswitch too and these will be available at any point. You'll need to fit triplexed outlet plates everywhere. You'll need to use a bigger dish than normal. Hirschmann make good quality dishes.
 
Tesla said:
I do not intend to cause offence by this comment.

What coax cable have you ran in the property?
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lol none taken m8

i have run pf100

carpmaster said:
Sounds like you need a multiswitch, quattro LNB feeding the four inputs, and two cables to each point where Sky+ is required. You won't get away with crap quality coax cable which unfortunately is what most electricians use. Stick with something like Webro WF100 or even better get a shotgun cable like WF100 twin.

You can feed UHF / DAB / FM into the multiswitch too and these will be available at any point. You'll need to fit triplexed outlet plates everywhere. You'll need to use a bigger dish than normal. Hirschmann make good quality dishes.
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thanks for that carp, ill put it to them and see how far they want to go.
all my work is north london/herts, if they want to spend the money ill give you a shout

cheers

matt
 
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