Skylake Clockspeeds and benchmarks!

bru · 17 Apr 2015 at 14:52

Freddie1980 said:
If thats true clock speeds have regressed. I hope they have made some serious ipc improvements becuase 95watt tdp is higher then Ivy Bridge.

hmm.....

The similar Haswell chips would be the:

4770K 3.5GHz (3.9GHz turbo)

4670k 3.4GHz (3.8GHz turbo)

Dave2150 said:

So just how have the clock speeds regressed ?

NMBlack · 17 Apr 2015 at 14:52

BriT said:
So i take it broadwell won't happen?

It will happen....but not in the way we thought/hoped it would....

Supernova · 17 Apr 2015 at 15:10

June?!

Great news for me. Still rocking an i7 860 from 2010. I've been waiting for this

WingZero30 · 17 Apr 2015 at 15:10

NMBlack said:
It will happen....but not in the way we thought/hoped it would....

This

David Bisset · 17 Apr 2015 at 15:23

bru said:
hmm.....

The similar Haswell chips would be the:

4770K 3.5GHz (3.9GHz turbo)

4670k 3.4GHz (3.8GHz turbo)

So just how have the clock speeds regressed ?

The 4790k and 4690k do exist so these chips have to compete with them.

kaku said:
Where are you seeing more PCI-E bandwidth? Looks the same as what we already have (1 * 16x / 2 * 8x).

Maybe there are 20 but 4 being taken by PCIe NVMe stuff or something? I dunno... *fingers crossed* would then allow effective SLI while using faster SSDs.

bru · 17 Apr 2015 at 15:32

David Bisset said:
The 4790k and 4690k do exist so these chips have to compete with them.

Well myself I would pit the initial unlocked Skylake chips against the initial unlocked Haswell chips. there might very well be faster Skylake chips further down the line.

fat4l · 17 Apr 2015 at 15:52

Interesting. Wonder how they will clock

Muz333 · 17 Apr 2015 at 15:55

So how much longer until Skylake -E? Wikipedia says 2017 but surely we'd be thinking next year?

Dave2150 · 17 Apr 2015 at 16:15

Muz333 said:
So how much longer until Skylake -E? Wikipedia says 2017 but surely we'd be thinking next year?

Late 2017 for Skylake-E. Broadwell-E should launch in roughly one year.

Dave2150 · 17 Apr 2015 at 16:20

kaku said:
Where are you seeing more PCI-E bandwidth? Looks the same as what we already have (1 * 16x / 2 * 8x).

I meant more bandwidth through DMI 3.0

Z97 has DMI 2.0, Z170 will have DMI 3.0, which is a significant upgrade:

I'm assuming this will allow more M.2 NVME devices while still having the GPU PCI-E lanes intact, though I'm unsure on this one, need more info!

opethdisciple · 17 Apr 2015 at 17:28

None of this looks particularily impressive.

Sylver123 · 17 Apr 2015 at 17:43

opethdisciple said:
None of this looks particularily impressive.

There would be no point in Intel bringing out the big guns right now where there is no competition. I am sure if they wanted to they could bring out high end Skylake that would wipe the floor with everything before it.

mmj_uk · 17 Apr 2015 at 18:14

My one wish is that they have put some effort into the thermal side of things, design, heatspreader etc. The equivalent enthusiast chips run about 40C cooler under heavy loads and as such you don't have to worry at all about temperatures unlike for example the 4790K which runs close to the silicones thermal limits.

Freddie1980 · 17 Apr 2015 at 18:27

bru said:
hmm.....

The similar Haswell chips would be the:

4770K 3.5GHz (3.9GHz turbo)

4670k 3.4GHz (3.8GHz turbo)

So just how have the clock speeds regressed ?

The 4970k boosts to 4.4 that 6700k only boosts to 4.2 (assuming the source is accurate).

Dave2150 · 17 Apr 2015 at 19:59

opethdisciple said:
None of this looks particularily impressive.

We still don't know the performance. It could be a huge jump over Haswell, or it could be a 5% improvement.

Boomstick777 · 17 Apr 2015 at 20:24

Intel have seemingly skipped over Broadwell so peeps that bought into Z97 thinking they would get Broadwell high end parts are left out in the cold.

So now to get real high end mainstream replacements people have to buy a new chipset and memory. Also still only 4 cores and 95 TDP. This doesn't seem very good progress at all.

Maybe the performance is off the charts?? All is forgiven if true

Z97 owners got owned (Me included

)

Dave2150 said:
We still don't know the performance. It could be a huge jump over Haswell, or it could be a 5% improvement.

True, let's hope it's a big leap..

WingZero30 · 17 Apr 2015 at 20:37

Well I will be going straight for Skylake-E knowing I would have a chip with full features and more cores.

I am currently on Q9650 and just bought GTX 970 reference card. I know my setup will be bottlenecking my gpu but I will be moving to Windows 10 in future. So I can still get 2 more years out of my setup and with the help of DX12 it should enable my current setup to play future DX12 games smoothly hopefully.

Telecaster · 17 Apr 2015 at 22:52

Dave2150 said:
Late 2017 for Skylake-E. Broadwell-E should launch in roughly one year.

What makes you think they will bother with a Broadwell-E?

Dave2150 · 18 Apr 2015 at 02:48

Telecaster said:
What makes you think they will bother with a Broadwell-E?

I think they will go ahead with Broadwell -E, as the X99 platform is so heavily derived from the workstation/server -EP chips, that it will make sense to do so.

WingZero30 · 18 Apr 2015 at 09:15

Telecaster said:
What makes you think they will bother with a Broadwell-E?

There will be Broadwell-E but it will be coming in Q1 2016.

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18631563

The HEDT market is a different market from mainstream as it caters only for a very tiny minority of people and as such Intel can take their time in releasing a product for this market.

Whereas there is a lot more business in mainstream for Intel coupled with the demands from OEMs and this means Intel has to make more strategic business decisions in increasing or shortening the life cycle of their mainstream products.