Skylake Clockspeeds and benchmarks!

jonneymendoza · 21 Jul 2015 at 16:11

Sylver123 said:
Because the current skylake platform is for the mainstream market and it is not meant to better than a enthusiast platform such as the X99 platform.

Once the skylake-E enthusiast platform is released than it will wipe the floor with X99 platform and will replace it at the high end of the market.

when does skylake-E come out?

Sylver123 · 21 Jul 2015 at 16:18

jonneymendoza said:
when does skylake-E come out?

skylake-E is meant to be released ether the end of next year or early 2017.

It could be released earlier than this thought.

ZeroG · 21 Jul 2015 at 16:24

TheF34RChannel said:
Nope, August 5 for the K series i5 and i7...

Is there any indication or accurate pricing? I've been waiting for Skylake to come out to see where I want to go from my i5 2500k with 16GB DDR3.

Armageus · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:01

kaku said:
Every Intel CPU release since sandybridge has claimed "5+GHz on air!!!".

It's old as hell and I'll believe it when I have a chip in my hands doing it.

+1 Won't happen

jonneymendoza said:
the skylake is meant to be the next best thing, not a little tiny upgrade(if any?) to haswell E?

It's not the next best thing - just another iterative development of what we already have - nothing revolutionary

jonneymendoza said:
Games like GTA5 already utilise more than 4 cores and similar games on paper would run better on haswell E then skylake as things stand?

Games may well run better past 4 Cores, but this is just an engine that scales well - the intended audience will still be the most common CPU e.g. 4 Thread I3s and I5's

Sylver123 said:
I guess you've not been keeping up with the skylake news because then you would have known skylake-E enthusiast platform is still to be released which will have 6 and 8 cores and then we shall see the full performance of skylake unlocked and then it will be better than the X99 platform and will replace it at the high end of the market.

The "Full performance" - why do you think it will be any better than Haswell->Skylake e.g. +10% ?

ZeroG said:
Is there any indication or accurate pricing? I've been waiting for Skylake to come out to see where I want to go from my i5 2500k with 16GB DDR3.

It will be basically the same as existing chips - Intel still have no reason to change pricing, and the last few generations pricing has remained similar.

Silent_Scone · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:16

Release isn't August 5th, I believe it'll be slightly later.

Freddie1980 said:
I would be amazed if they weren't backwards compatible.

Mounting is the same yes

Dave2150 · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:16

jonneymendoza said:
according to the original post, the cpu's most folks would be after(6700k) are out next year mate

jonneymendoza said:
o it got pushed forward? nice i may get one and finally upgrade my HTPC.

It didn't get pushed forward, it was August this year for many, many months already.

Broadwell-C was the one that got delayed by years, hence why we had Devil's Canyon (Haswell refresh) in the first place.

TheF34RChannel · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:23

Silent_Scone said:
Release isn't August 5th, I believe it'll be slightly later.

Mounting is the same yes

Which source says that? Everything I see says 5 August.

Dave2150 · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:23

jonneymendoza said:
hehe makes me getting haswell-E ore sweeter as it appears my setup is better then skylake.

We have no official performance benchmarks from Skylake yet.

Haswell-E will no doubt be much faster in encoding, video editing, multi-threaded benchmarks etc, thanks to it's extra 2 cores.

However, for gaming, Skylake may be superior to Haswell-E, since games have always favoured more IPC and higher clocks.

We'll have to wait and see the official results to be sure, of course

Unless Skylake impresses me, I'll be moving to X99.

Sylver123 · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:42

Dave2150 said:
We have no official performance benchmarks from Skylake yet.

Haswell-E will no doubt be much faster in encoding, video editing, multi-threaded benchmarks etc, thanks to it's extra 2 cores.

However, for gaming, Skylake may be superior to Haswell-E, since games have always favoured more IPC and higher clocks.

We'll have to wait and see the official results to be sure, of course

Unless Skylake impresses me, I'll be moving to X99.

4 extra cores if you count the Haswell-E 8 core release.

Dave2150 · 21 Jul 2015 at 17:56

Sylver123 said:
4 extra cores if you count the Haswell-E 8 core release.

Obviously.......

Though we all know how many games utilize 8 cores, don't we?

SiDeards73 · 21 Jul 2015 at 18:14

Is this chip going to be worth upgrading my 4770k to? or should i hold tight and wait to see if Zen is a fail or win or if Intel release something else worthwhile?

Armageus · 21 Jul 2015 at 18:20

SiDeards73 said:
Is this chip going to be worth upgrading my 4770k to? or should i hold tight and wait to see if Zen is a fail or win or if Intel release something else worthwhile?

Keep hold of it, it will be 10% better at best

jonneymendoza · 21 Jul 2015 at 19:07

Sylver123 said:
Because the current skylake platform is for the mainstream market and it is not meant to better than a enthusiast platform such as the X99 platform.

I guess you've not been keeping up with the skylake news because then you would have known skylake-E enthusiast platform is still to be
released which will have 6 and 8 cores and then we shall see the full performance of skylake unlocked and then it will be better than the
X99 platform and will replace it at the high end of the market.

So why are people hyped about it if it's for mainstream. People here are enthusiastic not mainstreamed users who pick up a pretty built pc or laptop

jonneymendoza · 21 Jul 2015 at 19:09

Dave2150 said:
Obviously.......

Though we all know how many games utilize 8 cores, don't we?

Gta 5

AthlonXP1800 · 21 Jul 2015 at 19:41

More 6700K benchmarks leaked.

http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-core-i7-6700k-vs-core-i7-4790k-benchmarks-performance-leaked/

Looked impressive performance.

6700K OC to 5.2GHz was been validated, the voltage is incredible very low.

http://valid.x86.fr/386ksb

6700K OC to 6.5GHz.

http://valid.x86.fr/35e8nv

Cant wait to read reviews, I am interesting to see how well it do in power consumption.

TheF34RChannel · 21 Jul 2015 at 20:21

jonneymendoza said:
So why are people hyped about it if it's for mainstream. People here are enthusiastic not mainstreamed users who pick up a pretty built pc or laptop

Because many enthusiasts are also sporting 'mainstream' quad cores (Devil's Canyon for example), I think, and the enthusiast platform really is a niche market imo. Wow I took a long time to say that I personally regard 'enthusiasts' seperately and differently than an 'enhusiast platform', if that makes sense? If not, I'll chuck down some coffee

I don't see a mainstream user picking up a K-series i5 or i7, they'll probably go for the lower clocked and cheaper options. So I'd say that enthusiast series start with the K-series up to the E platform (call me stubborn but I keep regarding the E platform as a workstation kinda thingy, not for gamers).

Sure, DX12 is going to more for 6+ cores, but only (!!) if and when devs implement it so how many will do that and how long will it take? It's not like they need it today, it's just extra work and headache it seems to me.

I do wonder a bit, those who are going for X99 now, won't you feel a bit bad when Skylake-E comes out rather soonish? I mean, I often hear people saying that X99 is the stuff to get, but it won't be for that much longer, it seems. So if you have a good CPU now, wouldn't you rather wait for the next E platform that'll be loads (?) better than the one you're eyeing now?

6.5GHz with 2+ volts? That's unhealthy. But also a very cool clock!

jonneymendoza · 21 Jul 2015 at 21:05

TheF34RChannel said:
Because many enthusiasts are also sporting 'mainstream' quad cores (Devil's Canyon for example), I think, and the enthusiast platform really is a niche market imo. Wow I took a long time to say that I personally regard 'enthusiasts' seperately and differently than an 'enhusiast platform', if that makes sense? If not, I'll chuck down some coffee

I don't see a mainstream user picking up a K-series i5 or i7, they'll probably go for the lower clocked and cheaper options. So I'd say that enthusiast series start with the K-series up to the E platform (call me stubborn but I keep regarding the E platform as a workstation kinda thingy, not for gamers).

Sure, DX12 is going to more for 6+ cores, but only (!!) if and when devs implement it so how many will do that and how long will it take? It's not like they need it today, it's just extra work and headache it seems to me.

I do wonder a bit, those who are going for X99 now, won't you feel a bit bad when Skylake-E comes out rather soonish? I mean, I often hear people saying that X99 is the stuff to get, but it won't be for that much longer, it seems. So if you have a good CPU now, wouldn't you rather wait for the next E platform that'll be loads (?) better than the one you're eyeing now?

6.5GHz with 2+ volts? That's unhealthy. But also a very cool clock!

the skylake e is not out for well over a year if im not mistaken and many enthusastics look to buy something that will last

Buying an E edtion system future proofs u more and possibly be cheaper in the long term.

TheF34RChannel · 21 Jul 2015 at 21:26

jonneymendoza said:
the skylake e is not out for well over a year if im not mistaken and many enthusastics look to buy something that will last

Buying an E edtion system future proofs u more and possibly be cheaper in the long term.

I hear you! Still future proof is not really a thing since Sandy Bridge+ - all of it is still relevent today (depending on usage). However if one insits on the idea of future proof still being a thing currently, wouldn't X99 only be future proof until Skylake-E...?

Orangey · 21 Jul 2015 at 21:45

The future is so uncertain right now. All the foundries are grinding to a halt, it looks like even GPUs will stall within a couple of years. There's promises of a breakthrough a few years down the line, but it may prove just too hard.

A 2500K might be a contender or a bum in 2020.

Jokester · 21 Jul 2015 at 21:52

Orangey said:
The future is so uncertain right now. All the foundries are grinding to a halt, it looks like even GPUs will stall within a couple of years. There's promises of a breakthrough a few years down the line, but it may prove just too hard.

A 2500K might be a contender or a bum in 2020.

Makes me think I should just get an 8-core and keep it for 10+years!