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skylake processor, which one???

thesuperlouis said:
i know im asking advice here guys but... im going to give you guys some now, skylake is the new tech with ddr4 ram etc, if im building a new pc then im clearly going to want to future proof it... so its sky lake and ddr4 alll the way for thanks very much... ps i dont have an older cpu x
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As you appear to think otherwise, to spell this out clearly:
A Skylake i5 is no more future proof than a Haswell i5, just costs more. In very rare situations it's fractionally faster but those are few and far between and the difference even then is too small to worry about.

A Skylake i7 is LESS future proof than the 5820k having fewer cores, fewer threads and fewer PCI-E lanes and still costs more. The 5820k is part of the top tier of Intel products, Skylake is not.

You're paying a premium for a new name, not for 'future-proof' tech.

If you want to 'future-proof' a build (hint: It's basically impossible, the future hasn't happened yet so we don't know what it'll need) the best options would either by go X99 as it's much more capable and so will last longer on current performance or try to keep costs down so you can replace it sooner - in which case the Haswell i5 fits the bill nicely.
 
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Minstadave said:
Skylake is a small incremental update over Haswell that is crazily overpriced. There's nothing great about it.

It doesn't even overclock that well.
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I beg to differ. My Skylake OC's very good and it the coolest chip I've ever owned. 22c on Idle on every core and never goes higher then 60c on prime. Say that it's not great is a huge lie. This chip is amazing! Yes it's overpriced I bought mine cheap on day one release. Not everyone cares for 2 extra cores that no game uses. the 2 extra cores as of right now is only beneficial to benching or 3D video editing. If your gaming 5820k is useless
 
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Simon Belmont said:
Yeah if your a super overclocker or Benching enthusiast. Otherwise Skylake is the chip you want. It's just overpriced atm. price will come down.
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Actually NO!!!

I have extensively tested this stuff and X99 is the better option end of if your uses need HT.

Skylake a couple of FPS faster in gaming non threaded single core gaming.
All other applications a power user uses a PC for X99 faster. Rendering, encoding, editing, photoshop etc etc and ofcourse DX12 gaming.
 
8 Pack said:
Actually NO!!!

I have extensively tested this stuff and X99 is the better option end of if your uses need HT.

Skylake a couple of FPS faster in gaming non threaded single core gaming.
All other applications a power user uses a PC for X99 faster. Rendering, encoding, editing, photoshop etc etc and ofcourse DX12 gaming.
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You say forget about Skylake, but does this include your 8-pack skylake bundle also?

For gaming, the 6700k will perform better. X99 is only for people who want to use more than 4 cores for faster production, such as rendering, editing etc.

If you're only going to be playing games, you don't need 6 cores. 4 is enough.
 
O/P original Q "Which Skylake?"
No. of posts answering actual question = not many
After all 6700k = 6700 + £100 = 6600K + £40
 
jwsg said:
O/P original Q "Which Skylake?"
No. of posts answering actual question = not many
After all 6700k = 6700 + £100 = 6600K + £40
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Heh, tends to happen a lot on this forum...

Imho, the reoccurring argument of slightly better IPC vs 2 extra core is irrelevant at this moment in time. It is still speculation if dx12 is 6-core favourable, but it is not like a 4 core is completely obsolete when dx12 is mainstream.

For OP, 6600k is a good chip, i bought one on launch (August) then built a 5820k x99 rig to replace it 2 months after. Not that I regret it, but it defiantly was NOT money well spent for gaming usage.

My original plan was for the 6600k to be a stop gap chip till the 'tock' kabylake i7 comes out.
 
RavenXXX2 said:
That small percentage is anything up to 30% faster than haswell in certain games.

6 cores is not needed for gaming, even DX12 games being tested show no gains with 6 cores over an i7.

Anyone looking for a decent priced 6700k hit up caseking de

https://www.caseking.de/en/intel-core-i7-6700k-4-0-ghz-skylake-sockel-1151-boxed-hpit-212.html
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You're using the best case scenario I'm sure to get that figure which is totally unrepresentative of the actual performance difference.
 
thesuperlouis said:
arent the new skylake (socket:1151) motherboards going to be compatible with newer gen/future processors?? thats what i also ment by future proofing... i may be wrong.
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they will be compatible with 14nm 'refresh' Kabylake

X99 will get the 14nm die shrink before this in 2016 with Broadwell-E

Ill wager that a die shrink will provide a greater improvement in CPU performance than a 'refresh' (now that intel have had to abandon 'tick/tock')

From what I have read it looks like the 'refresh' may primarily improve the on chip iGPU component that no one who plays demanding games cares for anyhow

X99 has one refresh coming (like Z170 has) and has a superior chipset (more PCI-E lanes), supports far more cores (you'll be stuck with 4 on Z170) so its likely to be the more 'future proof' of the two
 
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