Feels like AMD promising that OS updates would make Bulldozer so much better...
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Skylake 'Speed Shift' coming to Windows 10 in November
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Feels like AMD promising that OS updates would make Bulldozer so much better...
Define "so much"; as the move to Windows 8 did bring performance improvements to the bulldozer chips.
Not vast though, IIRC? They taught the OS how to spread the threads around modules, rather than dumping stuff into a strong+weak pair while other modules idled, but I don't remember there being a magnificent jump...
Not that Skylake does look nice - but it doesn't seem to be anything worth getting excited over, and I suspect no amount of tweaking the software will make it stand out.
Wow everyone so salty because it's Intel.
Improvements are good, especially when it's a more efficient way of using existing hardware.
Nobody's going to sit there with the stopwatch out to count the gains, but it'll go a small way towards making a system feel snappier.
Improvements are good, especially when it's a more efficient way of using existing hardware.
Nobody's going to sit there with the stopwatch out to count the gains, but it'll go a small way towards making a system feel snappier.
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I believe it's down to lack of real hardware progress over the last few years. Things like this just seem to highlight lack of real progress and irritate people.
Skylake lacks real tangible improvement over past mainstream chips yet prices have gone through the roof. Obviously people aren't going to be over the moon.
Oh well another 5 years from Intel and it might be worth people moving on from Sandybridge
AMD could bring some noise with Zen next year but remain skeptical due to previous releases. Yeah it's a boring time in the CPU space atm.
Skylake lacks real tangible improvement over past mainstream chips yet prices have gone through the roof. Obviously people aren't going to be over the moon.
Oh well another 5 years from Intel and it might be worth people moving on from Sandybridge
AMD could bring some noise with Zen next year but remain skeptical due to previous releases. Yeah it's a boring time in the CPU space atm.
It is a nice addition, but what it does from my understanding the only thing Speed Shift does, is ramp up the CPU from the current frequency to max frequency faster, much faster if you are thinking in terms of ms. I'm not convinced it's going to be humanly noticeable faster.
While this is nice, i do feel the technology is aimed more at the laptop/tablet market.
*crosses fingers and hopes that Zen and CannonLake bring 'teh *star out swearing!**
While this is nice, i do feel the technology is aimed more at the laptop/tablet market.
*crosses fingers and hopes that Zen and CannonLake bring 'teh *star out swearing!**
I believe it's down to lack of real hardware progress over the last few years. Things like this just seem to highlight lack of real progress and irritate people.
Skylake lacks real tangible improvement over past mainstream chips yet prices have gone through the roof. Obviously people aren't going to be over the moon.
Oh well another 5 years from Intel and it might be worth people moving on from Sandybridge
AMD could bring some noise with Zen next year but remain skeptical due to previous releases. Yeah it's a boring time in the CPU space atm.
Skylake/Z170 does bring tangible benefits - the chipset is vastly superior to Z97, plus Skylake is a much more consistent overclocker - pretty much all are guaranteed to do 4.6/4.7Ghz easily - something that cannot be said for the 4770k or 4790k. My own sample does 4.9Ghz stable on air - though I run it at 4.7Ghz as it does this on a nice and cool 1.3v.
Z170 gives you 20! more PCI-E v3 lanes for use by M.2 ssd's compared to Z97 also.
Though most people are disappointed as the CPU is only 5-10% faster than Haswell, which is understandable. Though for people buying new, Skylake is the obvious choice going forward (talking about mainstream market, not the enthusiast CPU's).
Yeh my thoughts exactly.
Sure, this is not a revolutionary new technology - but it's something new at least, that's already in Intel's next generation. Better than nothing!
Only problem I see with the 6700k is the insanely high price. On devils canyon 4790k, 4.7ghz was pretty much the norm. Owned two which done this easily, had a 4770k prior to those which got to 4.6ghz. Which was pretty ok for one of theese.
I got my 6700k for £320 from OCUK on day one. The price now is way to high, agreed.
Though I imagine it will come down quickly, since it's just a supply issue with the new 14nm CPU's.
Also I assume the large retailers/distributors want to shift all the old Z97 Haswell stock also, hence the price insanity.
Not true - I'm running my 6700k @ 4.7Ghz 24/7 overclock, and have it setup with adaptive voltage, so it still downclocks to 700Mhz and really low voltage when at idle/low load.
I imagine quite a few people have done the same with their 4790k/5820k's also - as it saves quite a lot of heat/electricity in the long term
You can set it up so that it runs the maximum overclock frequency 24/7, though this is incredibly wasteful if you want a nice quiet/cool running system.
Not true - I'm running my 6700k @ 4.7Ghz 24/7 overclock, and have it setup with adaptive voltage, so it still downclocks to 700Mhz and really low voltage when at idle/low load.
I imagine quite a few people have done the same with their 4790k/5820k's also - as it saves quite a lot of heat/electricity in the long term
You can set it up so that it runs the maximum overclock frequency 24/7, though this is incredibly wasteful if you want a nice quiet/cool running system.
Exactly i've overclocked all amd's since am2+ this way, funny how people to this day still disable all the power saving features.
And my old 2600k bought in 2011 hasn't degraded from offset clocking either.
Though the point still holds true that this tech is pointless unless in the mobile sector.
Secondly it would make sense for fine modular control of gating the gpu-cpu work load.
But unfortunately Amd have a far more trick adaptation in their carrizo, if you get time study the avfs and where intel have just nicked this idea.
My friend who was on a phII 980, priced up the board and ddr4 and 6700k vs a 4790k and board+ memory.
Price of skylake is unjustified, he went with the 4790k.
Haswell is a bit cheaper these days but how long before Intel decide not to make them anymore, then what?
Then sit on what you have, or sell up and get out while you can
They'll drop but it'll take some time they need to milk their wooly knitted 14nm process.