SLI or NOT is the question?

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Hi Everyone
First time back on the forum for ages (could be 10 years) think I was
Using voodoo cards back then… lol
I have read the excellent "Ultimate Guide - What to buy, and how to build" by Ultra Extreme, and I agree it is very good to assess the technology first to see if its usefully for your needs.
I would say, I think, I basically understand the new technology which brings me round to a more general question.

SLI or NOT is the question?

If my spend at this moment in time is limited to £350 just to get on the SLI band wagon is that the way to go ?

I understand the massive leap in 3D performance by installing the second Card and having Dual Core CPU’s plus DDR2 but do all new 3D games make use of this Technology.

The games I would be playing are “Call of Duty” and Simulations such as “Microsoft Flight Sim X”

I was looking at the MoBo to start with, like the Asustek AM2 nForce 590 SLI. This is a true 16 pipeline mobo because some of the SLI mobo’s found on the web go down to 8 pipelines when 2 cards are fitted and you really have to search for that information and I think it’s a bit of a con as I nearly went for one of those Board’s. ( bit of a rant there)

Anyway getting back to the questions if I am only spending around £350 on the tower would it be advisable to invest in the SLI motherboard
with one card to cover future upgrades ?

Or is it still more economic (speed wise) to go for the single PCI-e mobo
And the fastest CPU with loads of Memory and the most
expensive card I can afford.

Basically what I am thinking does a Dual core 2.6 CPU just end up being a 2.6 CPU in the gaming world?
Is dual core cpu technology utilized in all games ?
Does the game software have to be written to utilize Dual Core?

Can you can tell from these questions I have literally been out of the game for a while so if a lot of my assumptions are way off please don’t barrack me to much.

Just a few more thoughts!!!
Which one of the following gives the best bang for the buck.

The operation system should I be thinking of the Vista 64 ?

And is Raid one of the best solutions for Simulator X

Please… no one has to answer all these questions at once, any advice on any question would be gratefully appreciated.
Cheers
riggie
 
£350 is not enough for a decent SLI setup, unless its with 2x 8400GS's or something. One 9600GT or 8800GT would suffice for medium resolutions. Raid doesn't really benefit Flight Sim X unless you have some extra info on that. For a motherboard look at this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-235-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=913

And this for a CPU:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-171-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=793

In case you're not aware, Intel is the way to go currently, AMD is best ignored because their preformance sucks compared to the Core 2 Duo chips.
 
Hi Chimerical,
Thanks for making the effort to reply so quickly.
Just read the reviews on the CPU and Mobo everything sounds very good for the cash outlay.
This MoBo still takes 2 cards at full 16 pipelines?
Just read up on ATI Crossfire.... is this the ATI version of SLI ?
And I would be advisable to buy 2 ATI cards eventually to take full advantage of this feature.
 
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You certainly would not be dissapointed with a Crossfire setup.

There are mixed reviews as to wether it gives anymore performance than a single card. In the real world you wouldnt see much of a jump unless your gaming on high resolutions.

Crossfire on a 1280x1024 resolution is overkill but if your looking at 1680x1050 and above then you will see a difference. ATI has mainly always had the better drivers for dual cards than Nvidia has.

For £300 you could pick up 2 3870XT's which would in fact blow anything away that is thrown at it.
 
thanks for that info Wiggins, I was just busy editing my last post and you have answered most of the questions.
but if I can only afford one good card I can always upgrade as soon as the cash is available.
I did'nt realise that the MoBo suggested by Chimerical actually had 2 pci-e slots
 
The Asus boards are renowned for having good crossfire capabilities and the P5K's are pretty futureproofed for the next few years anyway.

Good overclockers also.

Certainly a good idea to get one card for now and then another if needed but if you choose that board and fit lets say an 8800GT in it, if you want to upgrade to dual cards in the future you will need to sell the 8800GT and get 2 ATI's as the above board does not support SLI, ony Crossfire.

Glad to be of help :)
 
So would it be good just to buy the 1350 ATI for now and fit the extra one later
for crossfire?
But again the mobo above only has one full 16 pipeline pci-e slot and the other is 4x or something like that or am I picking that up wrong ?
Would it not be wise move to spend the cash on the next board up that supports the full 2 x 16 pci-e and I will just have to skimp a bit on CPU size memoty etc like the
Asus P5E3 Deluxe Intel X38 (Socket 775)
 
hi everyone just an update, I have managed to get brand new MoBo, the P5N32-E SLI
for £90 quid so thats a good start for future upgrading.
Going to the nitex computer fair at Gateshead tomorrow for case and power supply, think it is wiser to spend as much on these items as I can by saving on the £20 postage.
Was thinking of a 500w psu for now is that enough for SLI in the future?
The new processors are pushing sales of the new dual core as low power users!
Whats the case everyone is using here for a reasonable price?
 
I have a single 8800 with GTX and it runs COD4 at 60fps solid on my 24" monitor at 1920x1200.

I'd say SLI is a waste of money at the moment unless you wanted to upgrade and you have an SLI motherboard. I steered away from SLI because after reading these forums, the Nvidia chipsets are meant to be really bad, and it's not worth the money for an extra 5FPS on the odd game which doesn't run at max FPS with all settings up anyway, which is urmmm... just Crysis.
 
hi InkZ
I believe you could be correct in the assumtion that the software has yet to be written to match the technology we see at the present, but this has always been the case and i would expect this will never change. But I have never been in a position buy the current technology until now. So my idea is to purchase the best graphics card to go with this board so in the future I can, if worth it buy a second.
But if you buy the single PCI-E slot board where do you stand?

I see OcUK has the 8800 up for sale for £130 which sounds good i only have £100 at the mo so will have to wait a couple of more days to get one.
( OcUK GeForce 8800 GT 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express)
 
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If Crysis is anything tro go buy you can't futureproof yourself at the moment. However, if you have a single 8800GT and a smallish monitor, but in the future fancy upgrading the monitor and buying another GT then I think it would be worth it.

Like I said if you are tihnking of SLI as a future upgrade path then it's worth getting an nvidia board, but I don't think SLI will future proof you games wise in anyway, but if you wish to run higher res in future then it will.

The 8800GT is a great choice of card.
 
£350 is not enough for a decent SLI setup, unless its with 2x 8400GS's or something. One 9600GT or 8800GT would suffice for medium resolutions. Raid doesn't really benefit Flight Sim X unless you have some extra info on that. For a motherboard look at this:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-235-AS&groupid=701&catid=5&subcat=913

And this for a CPU:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-171-IN&groupid=701&catid=6&subcat=793

In case you're not aware, Intel is the way to go currently, AMD is best ignored because their preformance sucks compared to the Core 2 Duo chips.

£350 should be enough,2x8800gt's or even gts's,i got 2x8800gt for £300 and runs everything bar the obvious (crysis) maxed out even on my 40" tv,and going by the rumoured specs of the 9 series of cards i think that would be your best bet.
 
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