Snooker / Pool tips

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I play snooker / UK pool once a week with some friends. I usually start with a few games of snooker and then move to a few games of pool.

I have basic cueball control. I can screwback, top spin, side spin as required for positioning after a shot. However I'm no where near the level required to enter local competitions which is what I would love to do.

I don't have my own cue (old one is broken). I shall be buying a new one next week.

Is it about time I took lessons or are there any decent tutorials I can follow?

Thanks :)
 
I'd like to know the same but for basics because I am pretty poor, can play the occasional great shot but most of the time I'm either making a contact which is too thin or too thick so my adjustment/lining up is the opposite of what it should be, if that makes sense?
 
like most games of skill, practise a lot. the more you play the better.

as for lessons iv got a feeling you'd be better off saving the money for your own table or club membership.
 
They are massively different games really. For snooker I'd probably take lessons to get some basics then practise lots. With pool I think just playing a lot is enough to get better
 
I used to play snooker and found that just playing snooker meant my pool game improved loads.

You seem to have mastered the understanding of what you can do with the cue ball depending on how you hit it - the rest is practice. I used to go down to my local and play snooker myself for a couple of hours every morning for a while (when i wasnt starting work till the afternoon) and its amazing how quickly you get better.

Clearing the colours from their spots in various ways is a good exercise.
 
I would recommend going down to your local pub and seeing if they have a pool team, this is normally semi-serious so you can get some good practice in whilst still having a few beers!

Learn the rules though as you may have to ref games as well! there are two sets of rules that the league may play EPA rules or World rules there are subtle differences between them but they can make the gameplay and tactics completely different.

I did use to play a bit of snooker but I found it a bit too frustrating so tend to just play pool now, getting a decent snooker cue which is also fine for UK pool (need a different tip if you are going to play 9-ball) will help loads and I would also recommend you finding out which is your dominant eye. Most people will have one dominant eye that you will want to use to line your cue up with, it will help identifying the correct angles to hit the balls.
 
Snooker:

A bit like golf, you need to get your stance at the table correct - you need to feel well balanced. When you're down on the shot a slight shove shouldn't put you off balance. Try to keep as still as possible while playing the shot. Make sure your bridge hand on the table is firm and still. Don't grip the cue too firmly when playing the stroke.

For me one of the hardest (and most important) things to achieve was a smooth follow-through when playing a shot at any pace. Get the tip of the cue straight 'through' the cue ball.

Potting the colours off the spots is useful. For me one of the best exercises was also the most boring - shooting over the spots. Put the cue ball on the brown spot and play it up the table over the blue pink and black spots and try to get it to return back over the same spots to touch the baulk cushion - getting it right ensures you are cueing straight and helps build your judgement of pace. Also try putting the cue ball on the brown spot and hit it directly into all six pockets.
 
The most important thing you are about to address. Your own cue. I would recommend NOT picking one up from the local sports shop.
 
Ricochet,

I play pool at quite a high level. Play in teams at national championships.

As noted, you seem to have got the hang of putting side on a ball, but it may help for you to buy a training ball like this one

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This lets you follow the speed of the rotation easier.

Your choice of cue is extremely important. I don't think you can choose the right cue without trying them out first. Different weights, woods, tip sizes all make a difference. I get my cues from a maker called John Parris. He supplies many pro's and has a shop in London. Maybe you can get down there to take a look. He's a lovely fella and will let you spend hours in there trying them out. He can even build you a cue to your spec and measurements.

I bought my current cue from him 4 years back and it is still going strong and probably wont need replacing for another 4-5 years. It is this one

https://www.parriscues.com/products/product/professional_cue/
 
Snooker, the most important thing is your stance (as mentioned ^). Get your stance correct, stable and comfortable, and you're 75% there. If you're a regular at a club get an experienced player to show you how...I used to go to the Kings Cross club (before it turned into the 'Hurricane Room') and it was easy to get some great tips from some of the pros there.

Once you've got the stance set up, the cue action is easy to get the hang of. Most 'wobbly' cue actions come from a rubbish stance.

I'm in no way an expert and no where near competition standards but I've been playing for years and picked up lots of tips. Don't think I've taken full advantage of them though :p.
 
The most important thing you are about to address. Your own cue. I would recommend NOT picking one up from the local sports shop.

Yeah don't get a cheap tipsy's, bce etc... As they are poo. Go to a snooker hall and have a look at what they sell, have a knock with one and get a feel for a cue, if your looking to spend a good amount on a cue (200+) then get a custom made one. Remember though you need to store it somewhere so need to fork out for a hard case.

As mentioned stance is key especially in snooker, you can have a crap stance and cue action in pool and you can get away with it but in snooker you've got no chance.

Also when in a shot keep as still as you can and follow the cue straight through the ball, don't stab at the ball as you won't get any action on the cue ball and you could put unwanted spin on it.

Another tip watch the snooker when its on, I've learned 90% of what I know from that, they do a tips bit on it occasionally.

Also enter the competitions, even if your rubbish you will be playing against decent players and you will pick up tactics and experiance stuff that cannot be taught.

And last but not least practice! When I was playing pool I played at least 4 nights a week sometimes more when I didn't have my own table.

I hope this helps as you can tell pool was my life in my teenage years, I really wish I invested more time and effort in it.
 
The thing is with john parris cues is they are very expensive 400+ if I remember rightly. They get bad press because of this. Don't get me wrong they are beautiful cues but very expensive.

People round my area go to this guy http://www.cues-glover.co.uk/ you'll look to pay 300 for one of his.

Also you don't have to spend this much on a cue, I paid 50 quid for mine about 10 years ago and its still going strong and it just feels right when I use it. People also have said its a nice cue to use.
 
For both games, as above, a good stance is key to a good smooth cue action. Rest your chin very lightly on the cue and make sure it doesn't come off it until you have struck the white ball and followed through. Again, as above NO jabbing actions, only smooth cue action with good follow through.

For snooker, spend a lot of time working around the reds, black, pink and blue and also with just the colours (yellow-black) on their spots. Try not to spend as much time practising long pots, as the most important ones will be fairly short shots when you're in the balls.

The only long shots I would really be spending any time practising in snooker is safety shots - try to practise getting the ball back into the baulk end of the table from various angles, and getting it to rest as close to the cushion as possible. The whole idea in snooker is to pressure your opponent into making an error and giving you a chance.

For potting and positional practise I would normally set up a half dozen or more reds in their normal position, with a couple free to pot. Practise potting these and think about where you want the white to finish to make your next shot as easy as possible. Try to always leave the cue ball far enough off the cushion that you can rest your hand flat on the table - this makes a big difference with the level of control you will have.

Really make the effort to keep it as simple as possible - watch the best of the pros out there, they keep it simple, only using lot's of cue action when it's the only option left for them. A little bit of side / top / screw etc is great, but keep it to a minimum.

When it comes to pool, it is very similar in a lot of ways. Again, simplicity is the key - watch the best players, it looks so simple!

I would assume you play 8-ball? Practise your break! I can't stress this enough, but a good break off shot can more often that not win you the game. Don't just thump them from straight on, move the white out towards the sides of the table, add top spin, maybe a little side spin too. See what works best for you. If you can have a good consistent break off shot in pool, then more often than not you'll win the games where you have the break.

Otherwise what I would practise in pool is position and angles. It is really important that you know all your basic angles in pool and can get to your next ball from almost anywhere. If you can't get to your next pot, then work out where best on the table to leave the ball so that your opponent doesn't have an easy shot.

Generally in pool if you can't pot, try to leave it safe as possible, with the cue ball tight to a cushion, and try to keep your object balls off the cushions. It's always easier to pot them and get position on the next one if they're not tight to a cushion.

And as for cues, yeah you can pay £3-500 for one, but will it make you a better player? Not likely to be perfectly honest. I played for years with a cue that cost me £75. The key here is get something that you are comfortable with. Cues are all wighted differently and what suits me would likely not suit you, so get out there and try a few if you can. If you plan on using the same cue for both, then I would suggest you go with a tip size no smaller than 10mm, maybe even 11mm as you will put a lot of strain on it when breaking in pool.

What I would suggest though is that if you buy a cheap cue, get it re-tipped with a good quality tip. I always used Elkmaster tips, and spent a lot of time shaping them to a nice smooth dome. Oh and one last thing - PLEASE use GREEN chalk!!! I see so many people using blue chalk and it drives me nuts, it leaves the cue ball and cloth in such a mess!!! :rolleyes:
 
Just an update really. I bought a machine spliced cue for £75. It's 19 1/4 oz, 10.2mm tip with extension and minibutt. I literally tried hundreds in the shop, and this one felt right.

I've found following through on a shot helps loads. I used to jab a lot. I've practised my snooker far more than my pool and have found my game has improved much more in both sports. I play twice a week now, as opposed to once a week.

My stance is much better and I'm looking right the way down the cue when taking shots, as apposed to just hovering over the cue which has improved my aim so much more!
 
Go to a local snooker hall that has a cue maker come round & get yourself a decent cue.

Learn how to re tip your cue & gradually reduce the size of the tip as you improve.

Enter as many pool tournaments you can & watch how others play.

The Main thing to concentrate on is your cue action.
 
Just an update really. I bought a machine spliced cue for £75. It's 19 1/4 oz, 10.2mm tip with extension and minibutt. I literally tried hundreds in the shop, and this one felt right.

I've found following through on a shot helps loads. I used to jab a lot. I've practised my snooker far more than my pool and have found my game has improved much more in both sports. I play twice a week now, as opposed to once a week.

My stance is much better and I'm looking right the way down the cue when taking shots, as apposed to just hovering over the cue which has improved my aim so much more!

:) great stuff. I find that there is a fair bit of snobbery with the top players when it comes to cues. Mine was 50 quid and its 11 years old, its a bit battered but as straight as an arrow. I got it from a snooker club and that felt just right.

I hope you got yourself a decent hard case to protect it.
 
Go to a local snooker hall that has a cue maker come round & get yourself a decent cue.

Learn how to re tip your cue & gradually reduce the size of the tip as you improve.

Enter as many pool tournaments you can & watch how others play.

The Main thing to concentrate on is your cue action.

I would say a 9-10.5mm tip is fine for snooker, any less and it would make playing difficult.
 
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