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So explain why my card is not running all the time?

Scougar

Scougar

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So, this is beginning to pee me off. Ever since Crimson came along, it has been harder and harder to seemingly control what your card is doing.

I have powerlimit increased to 50%, running stock clocks... no v-sync or target frame rate control is on... yet my card is only running at 500mhz sometimes in Planetside 2. It is like there is v-sync controlling it... but there isn't anything on.

I have the monitoring tools on one monitor, and the game in fullscreen on another. I cannot stand my stuff running at there max, it's what I buy the kit for. It really erks me.

What is going on?
 
Scougar said:
So, this is beginning to pee me off. Ever since Crimson came along, it has been harder and harder to seemingly control what your card is doing.

I have powerlimit increased to 50%, running stock clocks... no v-sync or target frame rate control is on... yet my card is only running at 500mhz sometimes in Planetside 2. It is like there is v-sync controlling it... but there isn't anything on.

I have the monitoring tools on one monitor, and the game in fullscreen on another. I cannot stand my stuff running at there max, it's what I buy the kit for. It really erks me.

What is going on?
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Your CPU is bottlenecking the card, and Planetside 2 is not that demanding game.
 
Does planetside use crossfire?

I remember trying that game and it was a bugfest and to be fair crossfire is hit and miss anyway, dont think amd have ever got it right

(im asssuming your using the apu to crossfire with the card?)
 
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Does planetside use crossfire?

I remember trying that game and it was a bugfest and to be fair crossfire is hit and miss anyway, dont think amd have ever got it right
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He is CPU bound. The engine is CPU intensive, especially if the terrain is set to Ultra.
 
Scougar said:
So, this is beginning to pee me off. Ever since Crimson came along, it has been harder and harder to seemingly control what your card is doing.

I have powerlimit increased to 50%, running stock clocks... no v-sync or target frame rate control is on... yet my card is only running at 500mhz sometimes in Planetside 2. It is like there is v-sync controlling it... but there isn't anything on.

I have the monitoring tools on one monitor, and the game in fullscreen on another. I cannot stand my stuff running at there max, it's what I buy the kit for. It really erks me.

What is going on?
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planetside 2 is horrible to CPUs, it even bottlenecks fairly high end CPU for ppl let alone a poor budget APU, your GPU downcloack because it's always waiting for the CPU to finish the work.
planetside 2 is one of the games that really need a Remake on DX12/Vulkan to make use of multi-threading.
if i was playing the game i would start a petition on their forum to ask the Devs to make a DX12 or vulkan version of the games, the petition would get unanimous support from all the community.
 
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When I had an and 8350 planetside 2 was virtually unplayable for me, chronic fps drops due to low GPU usage.
A switch of CPU to an i7 fixed most of my problems, was an expensive fix but worth it.
 
From memory if you press ALT-F, Planetside 2 will show if you are CPU or GPU bound in the bottom left. I can save you the effort though and tell you you're CPU bound.

PS2 needs very fast single core performance, which means you need a fast clocked intel CPU, ideally a quad.
 
CPU bound or not, I have never seen a GPU de-clock itself, unless it was using v-sync or hitting a thermal/power limit.

I know what PS2 runs like on an i5 2500k, and I know my CPU even though o/c'd can't compete with that, I am surprised to see this.
 
Scougar said:
CPU bound or not, I have never seen a GPU de-clock itself, unless it was using v-sync or hitting a thermal/power limit.
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PowerLimit is an element of PowerTune, but PowerTune may determine to fluctuate GPU clock for some reasons even if PowerLimit is not being reached.

For example Crysis 3 for me card sticks at highest state, I run Skyrim and it doesn't but I have no performance loss IMO. When your GPU is not sticking to highest state are you getting performance loss?
 
Scougar said:
CPU bound or not, I have never seen a GPU de-clock itself, unless it was using v-sync or hitting a thermal/power limit.

I know what PS2 runs like on an i5 2500k, and I know my CPU even though o/c'd can't compete with that, I am surprised to see this.
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lol what was your last gpu a 8800GT ? it's normal for the 380 to downclock if not utilized fully, power savings features for recent GPUs.
if you have msi afterburner go to settings and disable ULPS, that seem to work for some ppl who's GPU uses base clock instead of factory overclock of AIB.
 
Last decent GPU..... hmm.... been a while. GTX 480 probably the last independent card I had.

ULPS is disabled.

EDIT: I would note that I am now running on a 1440*900 monitor, so that is likely to put it in a CPU bound situation. My 4K screen is just too input laggy to play FPS games unfortunately, and I kinda smashed up my perfectly good Samsung 1680 screen with a sledgehammer..... but that's going off topic.
 
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Scougar said:
Last decent GPU..... hmm.... been a while. GTX 480 probably the last independent card I had.

ULPS is disabled.

EDIT: I would note that I am now running on a 1440*900 monitor, so that is likely to put it in a CPU bound situation. My 4K screen is just too input laggy to play FPS games unfortunately, and I kinda smashed up my perfectly good Samsung 1680 screen with a sledgehammer..... but that's going off topic.
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:eek:
 
maonayze said:
:eek:
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What was the eek for?

1) The low resolution - I have 3 or four of these screens and I ran in them in a multi-card setup originally.
2) Last decent card being a GTX 480.. I have had other cards since... but this is the last fastest one I remember.
3) ULPS disabled already
4) Saying that my 4k 'TV' screen is a horrible experience and it put me off gaming - No joke.. it makes me queasy.. it was a bad investment for gaming, but an awesome investment for software development.
5) Or the sledgehammer reference. (in which case it was sitting just fine on my desk and I was mid argument, and trying to show how little my PC meant to me - it's just 'stuff'... I can live without it. Unfortunately, it nearly resulted in the police being called.... :rolleyes: ) Suffice to say I beat the living snot out of that screen... I may have been a little emotional and put some serious angst into it).
 
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This is actually completely normal, where the GPU doesn't need the performance to keep the maximum FPS up, I.E V-Sync or CPU bound situations it will down clock its self to save on power.

All modern GPU's do it.

PS2 is notorious for being CPU bound.
 
OK... as long as it's normal..... but it still annoys me. I want the thing running at a constant speed and wish I could turn that 'feature' off.

(and I know PS2 is a CPU hog, although I never actually have frame rate issues at the moment.)
 
Scougar said:
OK... as long as it's normal..... but it still annoys me. I want the thing running at a constant speed and wish I could turn that 'feature' off.
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In Crimson driver page "Gaming" > "Global settings" do you see a "Power Efficiency" toggle? if so select off and card may stick to highest state or you can download clockblocker which will force card to stay at highest state.
 
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