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Trust me, when the day comes you realise you don't need it, removing that bloat from your drive is enlightening
So that didn't take long, Adobe CC cracked in under 24hrs
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Trust me, when the day comes you realise you don't need it, removing that bloat from your drive is enlightening
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Obviously, that's why I said I'm looking for the exit from adobe.
Don't have any issues with resizing but will take your word for it, elements has layers and its the same except if you need it there are levels of skill to make it easier. I too though only need layers 1 in every 500 photos
Noise Ninja, is that photo ninja? That works with lr. Although to be honest since lr3 I have found the noise reduction so good I have not needed anything else. Others of course may
The pen tool, curves, and 16-bit editing. Many more things for graphic work too. Probably more today, I started out with a trial for CS2 when it was new, thought I'd try out Elements but realised it was a lot more limited than it appeared.
@AnException: P1 Capture One Pro and Media Manager? That way you'll still be using pro software (although apparently Aperture is quite nice too).
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Don't have any issues with resizing but will take your word for it, elements has layers and its the same except if you need it there are levels of skill to make it easier. I too though only need layers 1 in every 500 photos
Noise Ninja, is that photo ninja? That works with lr. Although to be honest since lr3 I have found the noise reduction so good I have not needed anything else. Others of course may
Like I said PP isn't my thing, but if someone like myself can see that CS is better then I imagine for someone with actual skills in PP it's great.
Software that I do know is AutoCAD and LT is a viable option for many but full blown AutoCAD offers so much more. Just because you can't see value doesn't mean it isn't there for others.
Of course but I was talking purely from a photographic point of view, If you are in to any form of graphic work then obviously a full CS in better. This guy knows enough about both programs to write well established books about them and from the photographers perspective he agrees you don't need CS anymore for photo's.
http://www.mattk.com/2012/09/26/why-photoshop-elements-11-is-the-best-version-of-elements-yet/
IN the comments he addresses curves and pen tools
. Just because you can't see value doesn't mean it isn't there for others.
Of course, not disputing that but there are enough people on this forum with it, yet no one can offer up a convincing argument why for photographic work they need it over much cheaper options.
Of course but I was talking purely from a photographic point of view, If you are in to any form of graphic work then obviously a full CS in better. This guy knows enough about both programs to write well established books about them and from the photographers perspective he agrees you don't need CS anymore for photo's.
http://www.mattk.com/2012/09/26/why-photoshop-elements-11-is-the-best-version-of-elements-yet/
IN the comments he addresses curves and pen tools
Refine edge/quick selection is pretty useless in product photography where the program can't distinguish between similar tones. In my experience, for complex selections the pen tool is always faster than adding/subtracting from a selection. He may write books on the programs, but he glosses over many important details and he targets a less advanced group of users. Most people won't need CS, but for him to say that Elements is all photographers need and that stuff like curves and the pen tool are outdated is far too one sided. If curves weren't needed why would LR, C1P, and Aperture still use them? Like Rojin said, CS isn't actually that expensive when you use it for work, for hobbyists it's harder to justify but if I had to relearn everything I'd rather start from the full product than a limited version of it.
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To be fair from a photographic point of view I think he knows enough about the software to comment and get's enough feedback about what people want and need. He doesn't really say you can do with just elements. He says a combination of the two, with Lightroom complementing the missing RAW tools from elements.
As for curves I imagine they are kept because it's what people who have used the software for ages have been used to. To be completely honest I never use curves either. Probably because I'm much newer to Post processing software and have found much faster ways for me to alter what I want than curves in LR
As for curves I imagine they are kept because it's what people who have used the software for ages have been used to. To be completely honest I never use curves either. Probably because I'm much newer to Post processing software and have found much faster ways for me to alter what I want than curves in LR
As a piece of business software it certainly isn't expensive*, however for an amateur or part timer it is pretty pricey, one of the reasons they produced photoshop elements. To put it another way Creative suite is by far the cheapest software we have at work (other than office), the next cheapest adds another nought on the end of the price (multi industry standard GIS software) and the rest you'll want to add another nought on to that nought for a single licence...
As has already been mentioned if they were really dedicated to stamping out piracy then they would use a dongle like most high end software suites.
People will always find a way to pirate something, I wonder how they managed that though? As the program wouldn't be able to connect online without a license which I would imagine would be checked every few days and given to you only when you pay for it? Strange...
