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Socket 754 - Clawhammer or Venice core?

A couple of days ago I found out I'm going to be a dad so I now really can't justify having hundreds of pounds worth of PC gear lying around the place when it could be put to a much more worthwhile and important use.

I can scrape a basic system together that will do me fine for the 'net and such like but PC gaming et al will be a thing of the past for me in about 8 months or so :)
 
Congratulations to you. :D :D :D

It's great being a dad. Apart from those sleepless nights in the first couple of years.

Just think, those sleepless nights could be spent trying to get that Newark to work. ;)

Only kidding. I'm really happy for you. You will keep popping into the forums from time to time? The 754 gang is slowly getting smaller.
 
I couldn't find these Venice cores to upgrade from my sempron 2800+ a few months back. It now makes more sense to ditch the AGP motherboard and move to PCI-Express with AM2 or go Conroe. I'll definitely get more value than sticking with socket 754.
 
I'm still quite happy with my Sempron 2800 running at 2.6 on 1.55v.

Although if I were to upgrade and stay with the same platform I'd deffo go for the Venice as I don't think very many CH's get to 2.6-2.8, very few infact. With a venice at 2.8 you should see much the same performance of a CH at 2.6 for less cash.

Or you could just upgrade the whol shebang :rolleyes:
 
Hi all.

I have a clawhammer 3700. At stock obviously it runs at 2.4GHz. The anoying thing is though i cant get it higher than 2.46 without windows failing to boot. And this is with a DFI NF3 UT 250GB board and Corsair XMS3200XL!

Anyone got any ideas?

If not im thinking of selling it and getting a Turion chip. Same cache, and has SSE3 as well.
 
I had issues with that very same memory and the DFI board - they just didn't get on at all. It's not a universally recognised problem though, some people get boards that play nicely, some don't.

Have you tried running memtest?



ps. I've a 4000 Newark for sale if you decide on something else :)
 
It's not in the MM yet no - I'm breaking my full 754 system down to sell, when I've worked out my asking prices for each part everything will be going on MM.

My email is in trust if you'd like to make me an offer though.
 
The memory works fine mate. I have only just replaced this board about a week ago from an MSI K8T Neo. Same problem on there. Memory worked fine. According to CPU-Z, this is what my stats are.
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Any ideas???

Cheers
 
everything looks fine there - do you get a blue screen or hang when windows is loading?

only thing i can really suggest is bumping the voltage up a notch or two.
 
No blue screens at all. It just hangs. POSTs fine, loads all bios fine, then nothing.

What would you say is the max voltage this core will take?

Also, do you know what the max voltage my memory will take? (mentioned a few posts ago)
 
If you're on air-cooling, I'd recommend keeping a close eye on your temperatures up until 1.6v. If your temps are ok, increase the voltage by small amounts and keep a very sharp eye on your load temperatures.

As reference, I ran my Clawhammer under water at 1.75v 24/7 for 6 months and it was fine, and it took a couple of suicide runs at 1.8v to see load temps get upwards of 55 celsius. The 0.13nm chips can take a voltage battering much better than the 0.9nm.

If i remember right, Corsair warranty their RAM up to 2.85v - although if your modules are TCCD, they don't respond much to voltage so I'd take it up to 2.8 and see where you go with that.
 
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Shoddy CPU!

Ok, here is what i did.

1st upped the VCore to 1.55V (this is the highest it will allow me to go for som reason :/), and the memory voltage to 2.7V. Then rebooted to see if it booted to windows. Worked fine.

2nd upped the FSB to 220 as i know the memory can hack that. Booted fine! so ran prime95, and got errors. Fair enough i though.

3rd and so on, had to reduce FSB to 210 before no errors occured.

basically, i managed to get 120MHz overclock befor it told me where to go :(

Temps never got above 49 degrees C.

Could it be a problem with prime being naff? Its just i dont see why i cant get this chip to 2.6 without errors.

Woody
 
It could just be a duff clocker - the 3700's were never known for their clocking ability - they were renowned for being a good solid punchy chip out of the box, if you got anything else out of them then bonus time.

To be honest with you I was disappointed mine wouldn't go above 2750mhz - even with silly volts.

It's always a bit discouraging when something like this happens but to help put a little perspective on things, you've very nearly got an FX55 sitting in your rig at the moment.
 
I suppose, part from SSE3 and Dual channel memory and better contoller, (i know, they dont really make that much difference :) )

Hmm. Oh well. Thanks anyway though mate, :)
 
If I went for the Venice 3200 chip, does anyone have any ideas what I would need to clock it to in order to match a Clawhammer 3700?

A rough guess would be 2.5Ghz, maybe 2.6Ghz?
 
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