Socket 939 A64 Dual core - all gone?

z0mbi3 · 7 Dec 2006 at 15:44

Big.Wayne said:
That's the Cool'n'Quiet driver . . .

and?

Danswan, what mobo are you using? Dfi NF4 Ultra-D hates that driver.

Big.Wayne · 7 Dec 2006 at 15:49

z0mbi3 said:
and?

Well depends if he is using that feature? if not there is no need to install that particular driver

PaulProteus · 7 Dec 2006 at 16:23

Big.Wayne said:
Well depends if he is using that feature? if not there is no need to install that particular driver

BigWayne, have you managed to get your Cool 'n' Quiet up and runnign after all?

Big.Wayne · 7 Dec 2006 at 16:28

Nope, can't get it working under MCE2005. Doing a similar build this weekend so will test it on that . . .

danswan · 7 Dec 2006 at 20:36

z0mbi3 said:
Danswan, what mobo are you using? Dfi NF4 Ultra-D hates that driver.

For the time being it will be in my Asrock Dual SATA, but long term it will be going in a DFI Nforce 4 Infinity SLI.

Big.Wayne said:
That's the Cool'n'Quiet driver . . .

What driver should I install? That's why I was asking for comments/observations

Big.Wayne · 7 Dec 2006 at 20:56

danswan said:
What driver should I install?

Just install your new multi-core and boot windows. It may be worth having a quick look in the BIOS but apart from that your good to go . . .

Have a play with the PC like that, test some games, google earth etc, if you notice stuttering then go ahead and install the AMD updated driver

PaulProteus · 7 Dec 2006 at 20:57

When I moved from 3500 to X2 4800 I installed the first from the list (the optimizer) as well as the Windows XP driver (second from bottom).

I guess in your case things should look similar. For opterons I do not see Optimizer but the driver for Win XP is the third from the bottom (AMD website/support/utilities

It was quite painless and I am still to see any slowing down due to the optimizer.

Cheers,
Jordan

danswan · 7 Dec 2006 at 21:09

If anyone's interested, it says CCBBE 0617FPMW on it.

Any good?

danswan · 7 Dec 2006 at 23:15

Well just having a little play with it - first impressions are excellent.

Im well confused though. With my 3700+ in I couldn't get the fsb past 250 with this board no matter what multipliers or RAM dividers I used. With my new Opty I am currently at 270 and I havent lowered the multiplier at all. How can this be?

I'm certainly not complaining, but if my board is plainly capable of 270+ FSB why wouldn't it go this high with my San Diego in, set to the lowest possible multiplier??

Anyway, I will Prime this overnight but its currently been going for 15 mins and I have 47° on core0 and 43° on core1 according to coretemp.

danswan · 8 Dec 2006 at 00:08

Hmm

Seemed stable enough @ 10 x 270, Only primed it for half an hour though.

However it was locking up when playing CSS so I eased off a little but it made no difference.

Just tried @ stock at it locked up again. I didn't install a driver, just uninstalled my 3700+ and let it detect the Opty on startup. Should I install a driver? Dual Core optimiser? Or should I really have formatted when changing CPU?

Big.Wayne · 8 Dec 2006 at 00:15

danswan said:
Im well confused though. With my 3700+ in I couldn't get the fsb past 250 with this board no matter what multipliers or RAM dividers I used. With my new Opty I am currently at 270 and I havent lowered the multiplier at all. How can this be?

Each new CPU has its own memory controller, this can interact differently with your system . . .

danswan said:
Only primed it for half an hour though

danswan said:
I didn't install a driver, just uninstalled my 3700+ and let it detect the Opty on startup. Should I install a driver? Dual Core optimiser? Or should I really have formatted when changing CPU?

I don't think you need to reformat, mine just plug'n'played no problem?

Have u got cool'n'quiet enabled or disabled? and what voltage are you using on the CPU?

wiggy · 8 Dec 2006 at 00:22

^^ As big wayne says, have you disabled C&C, have you put your ram on a divider? Also when i installed mine i had both the amd driver and optimizer but found the latter to give me bsod errors.

danswan · 8 Dec 2006 at 09:33

Big.Wayne said:
Have u got cool'n'quiet enabled or disabled? and what voltage are you using on the CPU?

Cool n' Quiet off, Voltage 1.35V. It's PC3700 memory and hasn't been any higher than 224, but like I said this was happening at stock anyway. Memory is relaxed to 3,4,4,8.

I left it Priming both cores overnight at 270*10 and couldn't see any errors this morning, but to be fair I only poked my head round the door on the way to work. Temperatures were 46/44

I'm tempted to just format - CSS was fine with my 3700 at 2700Mhz, and this is happening at stock so its nothing to do with the overclock, could it not be some strange software thing?

z0mbi3 · 8 Dec 2006 at 09:34

wiggy said:
^^ As big wayne says, have you disabled C&C, have you put your ram on a divider? Also when i installed mine i had both the amd driver and optimizer but found the latter to give me bsod errors.

The Ultra-D is incompatible with the cool 'n' quiet driver if you overclock.

danswan · 8 Dec 2006 at 10:03

z0mbi3 said:
The Ultra-D is incompatible with the cool 'n' quiet driver if you overclock.

Sorry mate - at the moment it's in my Asrock dual SATA, but it will be in a DFI Infinity SLI after xmas.

wiggy · 8 Dec 2006 at 10:14

z0mbi3 said:
The Ultra-D is incompatible with the cool 'n' quiet driver if you overclock.

I got the errors when at stock also, using c&c diabled in the bios with the optimizer.

danswan · 8 Dec 2006 at 11:06

I haven't installed a driver or the dual-core optimiser yet, just uninstalled my old 3700 then rebooted with the opty in

wiggy · 8 Dec 2006 at 11:19

Well if windows detect both cores i suppose i wont matter, doubt there is any performance with or without it.

danswan · 8 Dec 2006 at 11:35

Aye well anyway, like I say I am tempted to format and reinstall, if its locking up at stock then I could spend days trying to sort it out, a format only takes an hour or so.

Big.Wayne · 8 Dec 2006 at 13:03

danswan said:
I am tempted to format and reinstall

yeah thats not such a bad idea, double check that C&Q is 'disabled' and whack a fresh install of windows on, maybe even worth using GHOST/Acronis to back up the freshXP before you start playing with different drivers, then if it goes belly up u can restore your image in about 5-10mins.

I did have an issue a few months back after I had been playing with different AMD drivers where OCCT would flop, again even at stock and I was forced to reformat etc, problem solved (whatever it was?).