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Out of interest, have you all applied to be a SEG generators?
Here in the NL, as soon as my panels were operational, the surplus electricity generated was sent back to the grid and we receive the same price per unit as we buy it for.

It never occurred to me that the UK doesn't do that automatically until my niece (who lives in London) mentioned it.
 
RevBillyG said:
Out of interest, have you all applied to be a SEG generators?
Here in the NL, as soon as my panels were operational, the surplus electricity generated was sent back to the grid and we receive the same price per unit as we buy it for.

It never occurred to me that the UK doesn't do that automatically until my niece (who lives in London) mentioned it.
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I don't think any UK suppliers do net pricing unfortunately.
The Tesla one is close I think, but its powerwall only.

We are getting bent over in effect but it seems to be that some pressure is filtering through to attract the export "generation" so hopefully we creep closer to parity over time.
 
RevBillyG said:
Out of interest, have you all applied to be a SEG generators?
Here in the NL, as soon as my panels were operational, the surplus electricity generated was sent back to the grid and we receive the same price per unit as we buy it for.

It never occurred to me that the UK doesn't do that automatically until my niece (who lives in London) mentioned it.
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I'm not quite sure why MKW said what he said, but we do have some very good tariffs, with Octopus Flux I charge my batteries off peak for around 17p, any excess in the day is exported at around the same price, but come 16:00 to 19:00 I can export at close to 30p a kWh.

This tariff worked very well through the summer, my bills including gas were negative, it's only now the weather's poor, and the days short that it's not so good, but I still force export at peak, to reduce my daily cost. I do have a large powerful system which helps.
 
Ron-ski said:
I'm not quite sure why MKW said what he said, but we do have some very good tariffs, with Octopus Flux I charge my batteries off peak for around 17p, any excess in the day is exported at around the same price, but come 16:00 to 19:00 I can export at close to 30p a kWh.

This tariff worked very well through the summer, my bills including gas were negative, it's only now the weather's poor, and the days short that it's not so good, but I still force export at peak, to reduce my daily cost. I do have a large powerful system which helps.
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Well I said it because its true. I don't think there are any UK suppliers who offer net pricing.
Net pricing means the import and export are the same and time indifferent.
So its very simple and requires no import this time, store that time, export that time type requirement.

Flux is good, assuming you have high over generation and or high storage compared to usage.
But its nowhere near as good as true net would be for most people.
In fact true net eliminates the point of batteries. Just generate as much as you can when you can, and import when you cannot.

200sols said:
The Dutch are phasing it out as well. Seems it was costing them too much.
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Probably scale.
Its fine to handle when its the odd one here or there.
True net pricing is really the holy grail. You don't are about what your timing of import vs export is and encourages just maxing arrays because you can.
Its also probably not helping as the grid starts to hit higher % of renewable generation.
As mentioned above, if you have true net then its pointless having domestic batteries.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
I don't think any UK suppliers do net pricing unfortunately.
The Tesla one is close I think, but its powerwall only.

We are getting bent over in effect but it seems to be that some pressure is filtering through to attract the export "generation" so hopefully we creep closer to parity over time.
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Tracker today is close to 1 for 1……i import at 16.2 and export at 15. Most i have paid for import since switching is 20.1p.
 
Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
Probably scale.
Its fine to handle when its the odd one here or there.
True net pricing is really the holy grail. You don't are about what your timing of import vs export is and encourages just maxing arrays because you can.
Its also probably not helping as the grid starts to hit higher % of renewable generation.
As mentioned above, if you have true net then its pointless having domestic batteries.
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Batteries having other benefits though like taking load off the grid during peak times. Solar is just too peaky in summer in this country to make net payments viable really.
 
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10.7 today, been a bit of a yoyo month so far
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I was referring to this part, we're certainly not getting bent over (well not any more anyway), and I'm well aware of what net pricing is, and I certainly don't want it, I for one would be worse off, as would many others.

Mercenary Keyboard Warrior said:
We are getting bent over in effect but it seems to be that some pressure is filtering through to attract the export "generation" so hopefully we creep closer to parity over time.
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Ron-ski said:
I was referring to this part, we're certainly not getting bent over (well not any more anyway), and I'm well aware of what net pricing is, and I certainly don't want it, I for one would be worse off, as would many others.
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Happy to disagree.
Until we get paid the same as retail generation for the same kwh then to my mind we are being bent over.

Those adding the top supply to that window when you get 30p will be getting far far more than 30p a kwh.
The reason we get the £2.25 a kwh for savings sessions is thats the sort of amount those adding the on call supply in peak are getting every time they are called to help out.
 
200sols said:
The Dutch are phasing it out as well. Seems it was costing them too much.
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Yeah over the next 4 years I believe.
Can't say I'm happy about that. The power company takes the power you've generated for free, then sells it on for 100% profit while I get nothing.
Yeah, it's not that simple but you get my drift.
 
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