Soldering help

I watched the YouTube vids and apparently the irons that plug straight into the mains without temp control (I.e. The one I have) are rubbish.
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This is not true. Temp controlled irons are very nice, but a decent one is very expensive.

These are very good budget irons:

http://www.rapidonline.com/tools-equipment/antex-cs-and-csl-18w-mains-powered-soldering-irons-61629

http://www.rapidonline.com/tools-eq...s25w-230v-with-pvc-cable-and-13a-plug-85-1140

Draper do the same irons as the above, but with blue bodies as part of their Expert range. I have an 18W Draper version, and it's great. I used Antex irons as per the links for years in my old job, and the're great workhorses. It's best to get one with a silicone cable though, as it's quite easy to melt the insulation on the PVC versions.

Do you have a pot of tip cleaner? It's essential stuff for keeping the iron tip tinned and clean. Wet tissue's okay, but won't help re-tin a filthy tip.
 
This is the kit I got, which had good reviews on Amazon (for the most part). I should have read the 1 star reviews first....

No I don't have tip cleaner, only what's in that kit.
 
This is not true. Temp controlled irons are very nice, but a decent one is very expensive.

These are very good budget irons:

http://www.rapidonline.com/tools-equipment/antex-cs-and-csl-18w-mains-powered-soldering-irons-61629

http://www.rapidonline.com/tools-eq...s25w-230v-with-pvc-cable-and-13a-plug-85-1140

Draper do the same irons as the above, but with blue bodies as part of their Expert range. I have an 18W Draper version, and it's great. I used Antex irons as per the links for years in my old job, and the're great workhorses. It's best to get one with a silicone cable though, as it's quite easy to melt the insulation on the PVC versions.

Do you have a pot of tip cleaner? It's essential stuff for keeping the iron tip tinned and clean. Wet tissue's okay, but won't help re-tin a filthy tip.

In my experience the 18w and 25w Antex Irons are only useful if you're soldering things on the atomic scale. If your components are visible to the naked eye they simply don't heat up fast enough, maintain their heat properly, and certainly don't get hot enough for soldering the larger stuff.

the number of components I've killed by overheating with those Antex irons is shameful. I use an Iroda Solderpro 50 gas iron with adjustable heat, it works like magic - no cable to get in the way, heats up from storage-cold to working temperature in less than 40 seconds with an ANCIENT tip on it, and the temperature can be varied from "subminiature" all the way up to "massive heat" - I've used it to solder 10 AWG (5.26mm^2) wire without significant difficulty.
 
antech 18w iorn brilliant easily replaceable tips and costs like 20 quid. (they do a 25wone too but meh)

get leaded solder in the thinest gauge you can get and make sure its flux cored.
 
In my experience the 18w and 25w Antex Irons are only useful if you're soldering things on the atomic scale. If your components are visible to the naked eye they simply don't heat up fast enough, maintain their heat properly, and certainly don't get hot enough for soldering the larger stuff.

the number of components I've killed by overheating with those Antex irons is shameful. I use an Iroda Solderpro 50 gas iron with adjustable heat, it works like magic - no cable to get in the way, heats up from storage-cold to working temperature in less than 40 seconds with an ANCIENT tip on it, and the temperature can be varied from "subminiature" all the way up to "massive heat" - I've used it to solder 10 AWG (5.26mm^2) wire without significant difficulty.



never had a problem with the antex.
 
hmmm, maybe I should give some better solder a go, I had just assumed that the draper Iron I have wasn't getting hot enough! (did electronics at uni, so got a bit spoilt by the £300+ temp controlled units there :p )

even with that aside, I agree the solder you get with the kits isn't worth bothering with....how I miss lead
 
You need a half decent iron (weller, antex ..etc) a decent solder sponge (instead of getting robbed on ebay for a tiny iron single sponge grab yourself a cheap cellulose cleaning sponge from wilko/asda ..etc, for the same sort of price you'll have about 6 cut sponges :-) )
Cellulose sponges are obvious from their texture/appearance as shown below, if possible I'd grab uncoloured/natural however I've used blue & pink before and they have worked perfectly fine.
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You also need some decent flux paste/liquid (I prefer paste as I find it easier to pin-point) especially if you plan on soldering surface mount/small electronics, something like the paste below is fine:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electroni...Home_Garden_PowerTools_SM&hash=item20ebe54c05

Soldering is pretty simple if you follow the correct protocol!
When soldering two points together you must first tin each cable/point/component before ever even introducing them together.

First flux and then tin each point using your iron making sure the tip is cleaned each time and a new SOLDER BRIDGE is created on the iron tip using decent solder wire. Unless your iron tip and solder bridge is shiny silver and mirror like in appearance you should wipe down and re-clean the tip and re-apply the solder bridge. Also make sure that once you have created a clean solder bridge on the tip of your iron that you don't hang about, the longer you leave the solder heating up on the iron-tip the faster the solder starts to oxidise and the quality significantly drops.

Once you have both components tinned nicely (this again is obvious from appearance, shiny silver/mirror like is good, cloudy/dull grey is a sign of the solder oxidising/dry joint and is not good and must be re-done)

Finally flux again both components that require soldering and introduce them together, create new clean solder bridge on the iron tip and touch the solder bridge onto the tinned and fluxed components. Due to the previous tinning both components will flow with solder almost instantly, now simply remove solder iron and hold points perfectly still until solder sets (this can be tricky and can be helped by either using a solder helper crocodile clippy thing for larger soldering jobs or I just make sure my kynar wire is taped down into position before soldering on tiny circuits)

The soldering iron tip should NEVER be held onto components/boards/PCB's for longer than a second or two, it really should be one almost continuous movement, solder bridge in, touch and away!
Holding an iron on delicate boards or components for any prolonged amount of time runs the risk of lifting traces and damaging components!!
If it is taking longer than a second or two to solder two points together then your tinning/fluxing or solder-bridge is of poor quality and needs improving.

Always practise and simulate on old redundant circuit boards before attempting any delicate soldering on expensive equipment!!
 
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Sorry to bring this thread back to life. But I have some issues I would like advice with as well.

Bought a 'No Name', HS-060 80W Soldering Iron from a local iron mongers recently with what resembles a large chisel tip.

I needed a soldering iron as I fly RC Planes / Helicopters so need to solder ESC and battery connectors.

Have a roll of Skytronic 0.6mm 'lead free solder'
Also have some LA-CO Regular Soldering Flux

The tip has gone very black and rough. Solder hardly flows. I just tried to solder a XT60 connector. Must have had to hold the iron on for 20-30 seconds so certainly not perfect.

Can someone spec me what I need to purchase. Will only be used now and then for what I put above.

Should I bin the above soldering iron, or somehow get a replacement tip?

(Diameter of the tip is 6.5mm. I just removed it to measure and middle section is flaky and showing copper underneath)

Just want to know what I need and how to best use it.


Many thanks.
 
This makes it easy, esp when I was learning.

"Tip Refresher Tin Powder Cleaner Soldering" < or something similar

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