solid computer for architect

Subliminal Aura said:
Yeah cross flashing isn't a great solution. It can work but in most cases fails. Best to cough up the large dough for a proper card :mad:
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Oh it works fine. The problem lies in realising what the process does. Im using quadro drivers rather than geforce because i want them optimised for cad, not gaming. Flashing to fool the driver is far easier than rewriting their driver. At 50 quid watercooled vs 600 for an underclocked real one im winning bang-for-buck hands down.

@Digitalle, who says overclocking makes no difference, you patently havent had to wait for a computer to finish a simulation. Repeatedly. For days. As a deadline approaches. So what the **** are you doing handing out advice on the topic?
 
JonJ678 said:
Oh it works fine. The problem lies in realising what the process does. Im using quadro drivers rather than geforce because i want them optimised for cad, not gaming. Flashing to fool the driver is far easier than rewriting their driver. At 50 quid watercooled vs 600 for an underclocked real one im winning bang-for-buck hands down.
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Cool - What card and BIOS are you using ? More importantly does it perform great with AutoCAD 2009-11 :D

Thanks mate
 
JonJ678 said:
who says overclocking makes no difference, you patently havent had to wait for a computer to finish a simulation. Repeatedly. For days. As a deadline approaches. So what the **** are you doing handing out advice on the topic?
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Are you a moron all the time, or only at weekends? When did I say overclocking makes no difference?
 
I have an evga and a bfg 512mb 8800gt, factory overclocked models. Plagarising a guy called aqua mac (iirc) supplied the id numbers for the very similar fx3700. Both are running geforce drivers for the summer, but will be back on a modified version of the evga original before october. Im quite happy to email you a copy of the bios if you like.

I cant seem to get on well with autocad sadly. There's an archieved thread on the gfx boards here about it, with various benchmarks. Im doing most modelling in solid edge, as nx6 and autocad are at uni only and rather expensive. It's a lot smoother with quadro drivers, but sli isnt doing much for me.

Digitalle said:
As for overclocking, its easy to get sucked into the mambo jambo of all these hardcore gamers whom think it is a mortal sin to not overclock, but with my experience it is a law of diminutive return. I bought my mobo and my chip with the intention of overclocking it yes, but once it was up and running the performance I experienced far outweighed any of my expectations so I just let it b
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You specified yourself a machine, but had no idea how it would perform. You dont use it for computational work. And you're sufficiently unskilled at overclocking to think it'll randomly fail. Yeah, you're the ideal person to take advice from.
 
JonJ678 said:
I have an evga and a bfg 512mb 8800gt, factory overclocked models. Plagarising a guy called aqua mac (iirc) supplied the id numbers for the very similar fx3700. Both are running geforce drivers for the summer, but will be back on a modified version of the evga original before october. Im quite happy to email you a copy of the bios if you like.

I cant seem to get on well with autocad sadly. There's an archieved thread on the gfx boards here about it, with various benchmarks. Im doing most modelling in solid edge, as nx6 and autocad are at uni only and rather expensive. It's a lot smoother with quadro drivers, but sli isnt doing much for me.
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OK, I see your ramblings in here :D

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17995195

Thanks for the heads up but I'm sure I've been down this slippery slope before :(
 
Yeah, ramblings is fair. Was gutting to be linked to a benchmark of a real fx3700 late on, but usually you get what you pay for.

I remain pleased with the results :)
 
JonJ678 said:
You specified yourself a machine, but had no idea how it would perform.
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It was my first custom build, I had NO IDEA WHATSOEVER how well it would perform under the stresses of CAD work, 3D modelling, rendering and pre/post production presentation work. Blow me.

JonJ678 said:
And you're sufficiently unskilled at overclocking to think it'll randomly fail.
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Haha oh you hit me right where it hurts.

JonJ678 said:
Yeah, you're the ideal person to take advice from.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the OP a 'Architecture Student' looking for a system to aid him with his studies? I have a Masters Degree in just that subject funnily enough, of which I just spent the last 6 years of my life working towards. Sooooo maybe I might just have an incline of the kinda work he will be doing, now im intrigued, what EXACTLY do you know? Other than being a ill-informed little keyboard troll who thinks using expletives in his posts makes him seem something other than plain old arrogant?
 
sorry to keep bumping my own thread (doesn't sound right!)

here is my basket as it stands:

AMD Phenom II X6 Six Core 1055T 2.80GHz (Socket AM3) - Retail £158.61
(£134.99) £158.61

OcUK Value GeForce GTX 460 768MB GDDR5 PCI-Express Graphics Card £117.49
(£99.99)

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2x2GB) DDR2 8500C5 1066MHz Dual Channel (KHX8500D2K2/4G) £72.84
(£61.99) £145.68

Gigabyte GA-880GM-UD2H AMD 880G (Socket AM3) microATX DDR3 Motherboard £69.99
(£59.57) £69.99

Akasa PaxPower 500W Ultra Quiet Power Supply £57.99
(£49.35) £57.99

Akasa Freedom Xone Case - Black £42.99
(£36.59) £42.99

Akasa AK-CCX-4002HP Venom CPU Cooler (Socket LGA775/LGA1156/LGA1366/AM2/AM3) £32.98
(£28.07) £32.98

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM (ST3500418AS) £29.99
(£25.52) £29.99

LG GH22NS50 22x DVD±RW SATA ReWriter (Black) - OEM £14.99
(£12.76) £14.99

Sub Total : £570.82
VAT is being charged at 17.50% VAT : £102.08
Total : £685.40

I've gone a bit over my original budget, but got windows 7 pro
i'm going to build two, so one won't have a case/dvd

any suggestions or things you would change?
 
Have to agree with Jon above. Forget the ssd not worth it in your case as once a model is open it will depend upon memory and CPU/gpu. My work involves slot of modelling in inventor and 3ds max, you want to go for a decent gfx card for fast renders and as much memory and CPU cores for the modelling as most of the programs support quad cores.
 
more ram than 8gb? then i'd have no excuse for working slowly!

the thing with the graphics is that for a quadro its just too expensive and a decent gaming card is still going to be a lot better than the on board - if i get a load of cash then upgrading to a quadro could be done, but just can't do that atm
 
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