[SOLVED] MSI RTX 3080 low-ish Time Spy score in comparison to others?

[Jack_Eao]

Edit: After installing Windows 10 from 100% scratch this didn't make any difference. I finally figured it out after some more digging around. It's the Intel Speed shift setting in my bios. I was looking up more to do with power settings and the C states for lower idle power with the CPU. I wondered if there was any specific settings in my bios that would affect it so I narrowed it down after turning off EIST and Speed Shift, then turning off EIST but leaving Speed shift. Eventually I left just Intel Speed Shift disabled and viola, 18k scores in Time Spy on the Balanced power plan. I have left EIST on auto since I would prefer my CPU to downclock on the frequency and voltage as to not use as much power when idling. So, unless anyone has other suggestions I think I found the culprit. It's more likely a Gigabyte issue than anything else, for ref mine is the Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro with the F11 bios (previous tried on F9 bios).



Edit: After trying everyone's suggestions (Thank you so much for helping) I have finally concluded that the issue was in fact with Windows 10 power management. For some reason having it in 'Balanced' was causing my scores to dip very low. Changing it to 'Ultimate Performance' and then adjusting the sections within that plan so that I don't run at 100% all the time. So I changed: PCI Express Link State Power Management to Moderate power savings and Processor power management - Min state 5% and Max 100%. These settings fall in line with the Balanced mode but somehow don't decrease my performance whilst running Time Spy. I now reach 18k comfortably on stock settings for GPU and the same settings on my CPU. My last score in Time Spy was 18,135 with an overall score of 15,344 (https://www.3dmark.com/spy/14366163). So, after reinstalling Windows 10, updating my bios it turns out it was Windows all along. Please comment below if this affects your score in any way or why the power setting change makes so much difference (I'm no expert in the windows power management so not sure what settings specifically in that would cause such a big change). Thanks again all


Hello,

Been running some benchmarks on my MSI RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio and seeing some low Time Spy scores (By low I mean not a lot but enough to notice a trend). I also tested various games with one in particular being low - Shadow of the Tomb Raider. This with the High settings would only get about 133fps average in the benchmark. By all means mine is still performing great with high numbers and FPS but I can't help but think something is up/wrong.

My scores/fps
Time Spy score - 14,440 - GPU score - 16,578 (various other runs are more around 16,000)

By comparison, 3 websites I've been checking out that have reviewed the card have as the following:
Time Spy Score: Tweaktown (1440p) - 17,945 / Kitguru - 18,568
Shadow of the Tomb Raider (1440p): Tweaktown - 175fps / techpowerup - 177fps / Kitguru 141 fps.

My specs:
9700k OC'd to 4.8ghz on all cores
Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro
MSI RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio (Stock settings)
Corsair RMx 850
Corsair h100i Platinum
WD Black 250gb NVMe (Boot)
2 x Acer 27" 1440p 144hz IPS monitors. 1 of them I have set to 100hz and my main gaming one to 144hz
iCue, Razer Synapse, RGB Fusion and Dragon Center running for all my peripherals and RGB etc
MSI Afterburner 4.6.3 beta 2

I have tried:
- Using DDU to reinstall the drivers from fresh including going back to 456.38 and also the same with the - latest 456.55 but seen no difference
- G-Sync is off for both monitors as per 3D Mark settings
- I have all 3 8 pin connectors with their own individual cable, I had it before where 1 was daisy chained and the other was it's own, this appears to make no difference
- Taking out the GPU and reseating it in case (You never know)

Again, it's not necessarily under performing but when you have benchmarks already out there and mine isn't really that close it's odd. I except the margin of error of say 500 points maybe or 5-10 fps but not this much. I don't believe my CPU to also be a bottleneck in this instance either but who knows.

If anyone has an MSI RTX 3080 Gaming X Trio (Rare in stock) could you please post what you scores/FPS is please.

Plus; Warzone I average around 140-170 with max settings Raytracing off (this seems to be about right)

 

[Jack_Eao]

Thanks, will give that a go now with just the 1 monitor turned on. I also set it to prefer maximum performance in nvidia control panel. Will take a look at my CPU with Intel XTU also.

 

[Jack_Eao]

Just tested with 1 monitor on and the side panel off. Got an even lower score this time round: 16,224 for the GPU score.

Intel XTU saying no throttling on anything either.

Will give it with iCue closed this time round.

 

[Jack_Eao]

iCue exited and the score is now even lower:

GPU - 15,969

What could be causing it to be so low in comparison to the rest of you?

 

[Jack_Eao]

I don't, I even made sure that V-Sync etc is set to off in nvidia control panel and even tried just installing Afterburner without RTSS. The only thing I can think to try is to roll back Windows update maybe?

 

[Jack_Eao]

Clock speeds tend to average around 1950-1995, sometimes spikes to 2010mhz. Power draw judging by the graph on Afterburner I would say average is around 340, peak is 369.1.

Just ran a test after rolling back on Windows update 2004 and score is currently sitting at 16,393

 

[Jack_Eao]

What would be causing the scores to so low with the PSU then? I doubt I should be getting 19k if all reviews aren't getting that and people here are saying lower than 19k also

 

[Jack_Eao]

Corsair RM 850x Gold with Corsairs Gen 4 custom cables

 

[Jack_Eao]

I do run an NVMe yes, all info can be found in my first post. I haven't changed my monitor resolution to the same, I figure it does this automatically but will check.

I haven't tried stock settings yet on my CPU but will do once I have tried my stock cables that came with my PSU just in case it's the Corsair custom ones.

 

[Jack_Eao]

All settings on Time Spy are default, so yeah Res is at 2560x1440

 

[Jack_Eao]

Ok ran another test with optimised default settings on my 9700k and got a score of 16,388. That's stock settings XMP disabled etc. Something still isn't right.

My power settings through windows is already set to Balanced but have restored it to defaults and my score is: 16,475

 

[Jack_Eao]

72c is the peak. That's without a custom fan curve and both scores were 16,388 and 16475. With a custom fan curve the scores were much the same.

 

[Jack_Eao]

Set the power limit to 102% (Max it can be set to) and fan speed to 100%, Score is 16,276

 

[Jack_Eao]

Set the lot on fire......

Only joking. I would do a fresh install of Windows. It does solve a lot of problems.

Sorry if you have done that, I only skim read

I haven't yet.... That's my last resort tbh but it's looking more and more likely at this point since I really don't get why it's not performing well. I'm hoping it's just software side since mine performs in terms of numbers as it should, clock, temp etc are all good.

 

[Jack_Eao]

Check if your gpu is running at pci-e 16x. I know some motherboards drop it to 8x if some of the other slots are used. Gpu-z will show the bus interface speed setting.

Yup, checked GPU Z and PCIe x 16 3.0 @ x 16 3.0


Seems I can't post any more now, reach 15, not sure how to reply now to other suggestions but will try and reinstall of windows 10

Oh, forgot to mention, I do have a TP Link wireless adapter installed on my 1x slot but have never experienced any issues with my previous MSI 1080 before (This has since been sold so can't test for comparison)

@koooowweeee Cheers dude, currently in the process of noting what software I have for a fresh install of Windows 10 and will update after that's done with score, really hoping this will help if not I guess somethings up with my card. If that's the case it's not exactly easy to rma it.


Reset of windows 10, and an overclock on the clock freq of +60 and mem +500 sees the score at 16,558. Honestly not sure what the issue seems to be at this point, either I'm unlucky and got a 3080 that is just an underperformer or there is something genuinely wrong. Don't get me wrong I am also lucky I have one and respect that but expected it to be at least performing close to what it should in theory.

@smogsy already tried that, including from a clean reset of windows where all I had installed and open was afterburner and steam to actually have Time spy open. Same low scores. There's only a few things I have in mind left to try now but will do it tomorrow if I get time


@Vyncenze huh interestingly I got 11,585 stock settings with Port Royal. Graphics test 53.63 FPS. What CPU do you have and what Time Spy score do you get?

 

[Jack_Eao]

I remember going through a similar scenario with my GTX 1080 my first 12 months of ownership were spent tweaking and swearing to god that mine is slower than everybody elses.

But after a while I realised all these reviewers had either crazy overclocks, always ran maximum components at the time, ran it on an open test bench etc etc.

Really ruined my first part of my experience with the card as I always felt I was behind. Turned out I really wasn't and my card was performing to spec and was decent on a manual oc too. Placebo can work opposite too in convincing you something is wrong no matter where you look or what you do. Once you go down this hole it's hard to drag yourself back out to where things seem right, I sympahise.

Thanks dude, that actually helped a lot

 

[Jack_Eao]

Finally can post again.

After many suggestions and different steps, nothing has really worked with stock settings at 1440p. I have now managed to get a score of 17,018 in Time Spy but that's OC'n the GPU with: Core clock +110, Memory +400 and Power Limit 102%. This sustained an average clock of 2008mhz which is probably why it got just over 17k. Temps reached a max of 70c which is not too bad. Didn't have any crashes with this OC either. Not sure what the deal is in the end with my card since I still think stock out of the box it should perform better but there's too many variables to why it isn't performing. Port Royal score on the other hand was 11,585 Stock settings, that actually seems pretty decent so maybe my CPU is bottlenecking me somehow. For ref my CPU is 9700k running at 4.8ghz on all cores, any suggestions for the CPU are more than welcome . I've already tried default settings in the bios, didn't make any difference unfortunately.

 

[Jack_Eao]

What temperature & clock does it run at ? I know another 3080 MSI owner having issues due to their card thermal throttling almost immediately

73c max if I leave it on its auto fan setting and with a custom fan curve 62c. Have tried with both options and the score didn't budge. Even with the +110 on the core clock temps only went to 75c

 

[Jack_Eao]

+400 on the memory might be making the score worse.
If the memory OC is too high then error correction kicks in which makes it slower. It won't crash or artefact so you won't know

I thought that too but I tried it with +400 and with +100 and without and only with +400 would I get 17k score

 

[Jack_Eao]

8 full cores at 4.8GHz shouldn't be a bottleneck.

This is why it's confusing as the CPU score is around 8,200/above which I believe is correct for the 9700k. What's more confusing is Port Royal is chucking out numbers such as 11,585 on stock settings which as far as I'm aware is actually good and about right for the 3080.