Some more "leaked" specs from the 1180.

spoffle · 18 May 2018 at 13:54

voidshatter said:
True. For example, 1080 has been granted support of 8k HDR videos (VP9 at youtube) longer than 1080 Ti.

That's only because the 1080 came out before the 1080ti or Titan X Pascal.

Kirby Wurm · 18 May 2018 at 13:56

Perfect_Chaos said:
I meant it more as the 1080 and Ti last around the same length of time each, before being replaced. So people buying either card don't really lose either way.. At least that's the way i see it, it doesn't always go that way if they release the Ti much earlier than expected though.

Completely agree.

Kaapstad · 18 May 2018 at 13:56

spoffle said:
"cannot afford" yeah, no. The Titan V price is obscene and offensive. I can afford one no problem, but it isn't financially sensible to buy one, especially given the quite limited performance increase.

Can you lay off the false dichotomy nonsense please?

If you watch a Titan Xp and Titan V run under similar conditions it is hard to tell the difference without FRAPS.

spoffle · 18 May 2018 at 13:59

Kaapstad said:
If you watch a Titan Xp and Titan V run under similar conditions it is hard to tell the difference without FRAPS.

That's the general gist I've got of them. If there's a use for them, I can't see gaming really being one of them, and if there's a pro use, pro cards are around the same price level. They're quite bizarre cards.

voidshatter · 18 May 2018 at 14:13

spoffle said:
"cannot afford" yeah, no. The Titan V price is obscene and offensive. I can afford one no problem, but it isn't financially sensible to buy one, especially given the quite limited performance increase.

Can you lay off the false dichotomy nonsense please?

Long term graphics card upgrading path can be regarded as a long journey of buy new and sell old. The depreciation divided by the days the Titan sits on the throne of performance is essentially the daily cost of maintaining top performance with it. If someone's annual income does not offset this value well, then I call it "cannot afford it regularly".

voidshatter · 18 May 2018 at 14:14

spoffle said:
That's only because the 1080 came out before the 1080ti or Titan X Pascal.

Not only 1080 came out before 1080 Ti. 780 also came before 780 Ti, and 1180 will also come before 1180 Ti.

spoffle · 18 May 2018 at 14:38

voidshatter said:
Not only 1080 came out before 1080 Ti. 780 also came before 780 Ti, and 1180 will also come before 1180 Ti.

Okay

But you seem to be making some sort of point about how the X80 cards are better supported than the X80Ti literally based on the amount of time it supports some arbitrary feature.

Well yeah that's gonna be the case when one comes out before the other.

LoadsaMoney · 18 May 2018 at 16:03

Rumor: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1180 Expected in July?

A new generation of graphics cards from Nvidia would become available in July, according to close-lipped sources from Tom's Hardware. The next-gen GPUs would be based on the Turing platform, but details in any shape or form lack, whatsoever.

While it remains a rumor, it's stated that Nvidia would deliver the first GPUs and memory starting June 15th towards its partners. If that's the case then it'll be plausible to see Founders edition cards a month later with AIB partners launching in August or September with custom versions. This info is derived from Tom's Hardware who writes that all this is based on information from industry sources. They do not say anything about the names of the cards yet. This could be the 11 or 20 series, or the GTX 1180 or the GTX 2080.

Specifications for the Turing GPU are not reported, and all info posted on that in the past remains pure speculation, but word is that it'll be a GPU based on TSMC's 12nm FinFET process with 3584 shader cores, 224 texture mapping units, and 64 ROPs. It's also said to sport "8-16GB" of DDR6 memory and features a TDP of 170 to 200 watts. The GTX 1170, meanwhile, is rumored to come with 2,688 CUDA cores, run at 1.5GHz to 1.8GHz, and also have 8 to 16GB of GDDR6 memory. Again, this last paragraph is based on pure speculation.

http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/rumor_nvidia_geforce_gtx_1180_expected_in_july.html

Dicehunter · 18 May 2018 at 17:59

voidshatter said:
Long term graphics card upgrading path can be regarded as a long journey of buy new and sell old. The depreciation divided by the days the Titan sits on the throne of performance is essentially the daily cost of maintaining top performance with it. If someone's annual income does not offset this value well, then I call it "cannot afford it regularly".

So in your mind if someone doesn't jump on the latest GPU this to you means they can't afford it ?

I've read some dumb things in my time but that is really up there.

Rroff · 18 May 2018 at 18:02

Wish nVidia would hurry up - I'm getting bored of this 1070 though I don't really need anything faster right now - as my previous card had an overkill cooler and a nice backplate, etc. and this is a fairly plain card with cheap plastics and cheap aluminium cooler its kind of bugging me as silly as that is.

voidshatter · 18 May 2018 at 18:08

Dicehunter said:
So in your mind if someone doesn't jump on the latest GPU this to you means they can't afford it ?

I've read some dumb things in my time but that is really up there.

That's correct. "Can yolo afford once" is different from "can afford regularly".

If someone doesn't own the Titan V, that means his status has not yet reached financial independence to do regular upgrades with the latest Titans. He simply doesn't belong to the social class of feeling nothing about throwing away £2700 without a second thought. That immediately classifies him into the category of people as non-Titan buyers. For non-Titan buyers, I don't see much advantage to go for the Ti versions (more heat, more noise, shorter support, not necessarily more future-proof because always gets beat by the next generation non-Ti).

melmac · 18 May 2018 at 18:33

voidshatter said:
That's correct. "Can yolo afford once" is different from "can afford regularly".

If someone doesn't own the Titan V, that means his status has not yet reached financial independence to do regular upgrades with the latest Titans. He simply doesn't belong to the social class of feeling nothing about throwing away £2700 without a second thought. That immediately classifies him into the category of people as non-Titan buyers. For non-Titan buyers, I don't see much advantage to go for the Ti versions (more heat, more noise, shorter support, not necessarily more future-proof because always gets beat by the next generation non-Ti).

you are coming out with some pure and utter rubbish. Ti versions don't have shorter support than non Ti cards. The Titan stock cooler is the nosiest. The Maxwell Titan was soundly beaten by the 1080 and nearly beaten by the 1070. The Kepler Titan was passed by the aftermarket 780.

The amount of support you get is from the warranty, the noise/heat depends on the cooler.

You were wrong about the price, and you are wrong about this as well.

voidshatter · 18 May 2018 at 18:42

melmac said:
you are coming out with some pure and utter rubbish. Ti versions don't have shorter support than non Ti cards. The Titan stock cooler is the nosiest. The Maxwell Titan was soundly beaten by the 1080 and nearly beaten by the 1070. The Kepler Titan was passed by the aftermarket 780.

The amount of support you get is from the warranty, the noise/heat depends on the cooler.

You were wrong about the price, and you are wrong about this as well.

Shorter support of the Ti versions was mentioned here and you should reply to that post.

For noise you need the same cooler to compare between the Ti and the non-Ti, e.g. 980 reference vs 980 Ti reference, 1080 reference vs 1080 Ti reference.

Rroff · 18 May 2018 at 18:46

voidshatter said:
That's correct. "Can yolo afford once" is different from "can afford regularly".

That is a very narrow definition of can't afford it. If I needed a Titan I'd have one every generation without even having to think about the financial side.

Dicehunter · 18 May 2018 at 21:02

voidshatter said:
That's correct. "Can yolo afford once" is different from "can afford regularly".

If someone doesn't own the Titan V, that means his status has not yet reached financial independence to do regular upgrades with the latest Titans. He simply doesn't belong to the social class of feeling nothing about throwing away £2700 without a second thought. That immediately classifies him into the category of people as non-Titan buyers. For non-Titan buyers, I don't see much advantage to go for the Ti versions (more heat, more noise, shorter support, not necessarily more future-proof because always gets beat by the next generation non-Ti).

Wow, Do you think about how nonsensical you can make your posts before you type them out or does it just flow naturally from your fingertips ?

If I really wanted to I could get a Titan V right now, But what would the point be other than e-peen ? My main games are WoW and Elite Dangerous, Games that don't really need the latest and greatest to run.

My uncle is a multi millionaire from working in the pharmacy industry for over 30 years, You know what GPU he has ? A Titan, Not a Titan V, But the first Titan from Nvidia, But according to you he can't afford anything better............

Give your head a wobble kiddo, There's A LOT of garbage in there.

Rroff said:
That is a very narrow definition of can't afford it. If I needed a Titan I'd have one every generation without even having to think about the financial side.

I don't think logical thinking will prevail here.

voidshatter · 18 May 2018 at 21:25

Dicehunter said:
If I really wanted to I could get a Titan V right now, But what would the point be other than e-peen ? My main games are WoW and Elite Dangerous, Games that don't really need the latest and greatest to run.

Well, maybe I could use the wording "cannot justify" instead of "cannot afford" as the latter obviously offends someone, though for me these two phrases essentially mean the same thing.

Dicehunter said:
My uncle is a multi millionaire from working in the pharmacy industry for over 30 years, You know what GPU he has ? A Titan, Not a Titan V, But the first Titan from Nvidia, But according to you he can't afford anything better............

If your uncle is an active forum poster, he would enjoy owning the Titan V for bragging rights, unless he needs SLI. I don't think he's keen to waste time in such a thread. Who would even bother comparing a 1180 / 1180 Ti when he can grab a Titan V without any financial burden?

Dicehunter · 18 May 2018 at 21:54

voidshatter said:
Well, maybe I could use the wording "cannot justify" instead of "cannot afford" as the latter obviously offends someone, though for me these two phrases essentially mean the same thing.

If your uncle is an active forum poster, he would enjoy owning the Titan V for bragging rights, unless he needs SLI. I don't think he's keen to waste time in such a thread. Who would even bother comparing a 1180 / 1180 Ti when he can grab a Titan V without any financial burden?

Ok I know this is hard for you to wrap your head around but get this....what's if someone simply doesn't want to change what they have even if they can afford to buy whatever is at the top without even blinking BOOOOM revelation, It has nothing to do with "cannot justify" or "cannot afford", THINK, You can't be this dense surely.

voidshatter · 18 May 2018 at 21:57

Dicehunter said:
Ok I know this is hard for you to wrap your head around but get this....what's if someone simply doesn't want to change what they have even if they can afford to buy whatever is at the top without even blinking BOOOOM revelation, It has nothing to do with "cannot justify" or "cannot afford", THINK, You can't be this dense surely.

Yes, yes, you can definitely afford Titan V

Now everyone knows it ^^ We all believe in you!

DarrenM343 · 18 May 2018 at 21:58

voidshatter said:
Well, maybe I could use the wording "cannot justify" instead of "cannot afford" as the latter obviously offends someone, though for me these two phrases essentially mean the same thing.

If your uncle is an active forum poster, he would enjoy owning the Titan V for bragging rights, unless he needs SLI. I don't think he's keen to waste time in such a thread. Who would even bother comparing a 1180 / 1180 Ti when he can grab a Titan V without any financial burden?

I think you're making assumptions here

. Folks are different. Even multi-millionaires often still judge value, it's often why they're millionaires (they often don't waste money). Often depends on where they came from, background etc. So not everyone will buy a Titan V because they can afford one, even if they were an active forum member.
As a kid I remember the stories of a wealthy uncle who bought a brand new skoda (big spend huh?), and even put the dealers up against each other to get the very best deal he could. Today he doesn't have a fantastic car and uses back street garages for repairs

. His wealth is still intact, he has no need for an expensive car. If he was a gamer, he'd probably stay at 1080P and do a lot of research on what the optimal card for this resolution (including performance per £)

Dicehunter · 18 May 2018 at 21:59

voidshatter said:
Yes, yes, you can definitely afford Titan V Now everyone knows it ^^ We all believe in you!

I don't care if anyone believes me or not, Point is I do not need 1, Just like I don't need a 7980XE, You seem REALLY obsessed with what I spend my money on.

DarrenM343 said:
I think you're making assumptions here . Folks are different. Even multi-millionaires often still judge value, it's often why they're millionaires (they often don't waste money). Often depends on where they came from, background etc. So not everyone will buy a Titan V because they can afford one, even if they were an active forum member.
As a kid I remember the stories of a wealthy uncle who bought a brand new skoda (big spend huh?), and even put the dealers up against each other to get the very best deal he could. Today he doesn't have a fantastic car and uses back street garages for repairs . His wealth is still intact, he has no need for an expensive car.

Woah woah woah, You're using logic.