Someone ... please invent a merge in turn camera!

[Barks]

I went driving down an empty lane at the speedlimit, a perfectly safe move.

The fact that the person pulled out in front of me with no indication (and on purpose KNOWING that I was there) is no reason at all.

If anything that move is enough to get the trucker charged with DWDCA or Dangerous Driving were any police present

How can you not accept that bolting past a queue of stationary traffic at 50mph is the definition of reckless driving, there is nothing safe about it whatsoever.

If you had driven into the back of them it would have been entirely your fault, legally, rationally, whatever perspective is taken in scrutiny.

 

[Liampope]

Scary arrogance, Rypt. You simply fail to understand what hazard perception actually means. Do you seriously actually think it involves only anticipation of totally legal, safe, by-the-code manoeuvres, as you seem to be suggesting? Pretty much by definition, those things are almost never actually hazards. Hazards are exactly all the things that shouldn't happen, yet you think you can just drive along as if those things wont happen, or you dont care if they do as the ensuing carnage 'wont be your fault'. You fail at understanding the basic concept of hazard perception and are a dangerous muppet of a driver.

 

[[TW]Fox]

I do wonder what would happen if somebody stepped off the curb in front of rypt as he travelled at the speed limit. Presumably he would simply mow them down, because of course, they shouldnt be there and it isnt his fault?

 

[Simon]

He's one of the people who pull out of junctions when a car coming from his right is indicating left ...

I suggest you do some advanced driver training, I've done several sessions through work and it really opens your eyes as to what you normally miss when driving.

 

[Scania]

What could and did happen is not something that should happen, as is against the instructions of the Highway Code

Thats why you expect the un-expected.

 

[Simon]

The highway code is not a set of operating parameters

 

[[TW]Fox]

 

[asim18]

I do wonder what would happen if somebody stepped off the curb in front of rypt as he travelled at the speed limit. Presumably he would simply mow them down, because of course, they shouldnt be there and it isnt his fault?

Erm. What would anyone do?

Oh of course, you'd be able to stop in 0.01 of a second thanks to your impeccable German engineered brakes. Or do you slow to a crawl everytime you pass a pedestrian on the footpath?

 

[-Ad-]

Erm. What would anyone do?

Oh of course, you'd be able to stop in 0.01 of a second thanks to your impeccable German engineered brakes. Or do you slow to a crawl everytime you pass a pedestrian on the footpath?

His brakes couldn't but your RS4 brakes could..... Wait!

FOX @ WTF is that tune, it's hilarious!

 

[[TW]Fox]

Erm. What would anyone do?

You are a bit more alert when you see a pedestrian heading for the edge of the road, you are keeping an eye out. You don't drive just for what might legally happen.

 

[Rich_L]

Indeed, a pretty safe way to drive is to assume that:

a) You have a 6-inch metal spike on your steering wheel
b) Every other vehicle is out to kill you and the drivers are blind and deaf
c) That every pedestrian/cyclist has a suicidal deathwish and are blind and deaf.

I wish that was even a joke :-/

 

[Scania]

I went driving down an empty lane at the speedlimit, a perfectly safe move.

The fact that the person pulled out in front of me with no indication (and on purpose KNOWING that I was there) is no reason at all.

If anything that move is enough to get the trucker charged with DWDCA or Dangerous Driving were any police present

Anybody with an ounce of road experience will know that truckers (rightly & wrongly) will do this from time to time - done it myself in the past - some times it may be to simply slow up the rypt's of this world.

Long before I became a professional driver, I knew truckers especially did this sort of thing at road works.

Flying along @ 50mph alongside a queue of traffic is extremely dangerous, as is pulling out to prevent such folly.

The trucker was well in the wrong from what rypt says in his OP, that said, two wrongs don't make a right.

 

[NathanE]

@R420LAFSDFSDF23442324324243

I'm assuming "in the past" you mean before driving for Eddie? Surely they forbid their staff getting involved in petty merge-in-turn wars?

 

[Scania]

@R420LAFSDFSDF23442324324243

I'm assuming "in the past" you mean before driving for Eddie? Surely they forbid their staff getting involved in petty merge-in-turn wars?

They would judge the situation on its own merit.That said, they would prefer we did not get involved.




Back in the good old days - my dark,distant past, yes, I had a plain white tractor & an un-signed blue trailer - no chance of being reported - rightly or wrongly - with an ESL truck & its somewhat recognisable livery, we tend to get reported for doing nothing wrong!

They want us to portray the "Steady Eddie" image, paid by the hour, steady suits me fine.

 

[stockhausen]

Just the other day I was heading North from London one evening. At junction 21A on the M25, there was a long tail-back on the slip road so I carried on in the right-hand lane until the last minute.

To my horror, nobody would let me "merge-in" As a result, I had to park in the right-hand lane until some dozy bint driving a flash car who was talking on a mobile was slow to move and I could force my way in front of her.

Much hooting, flashing and highly dangerous lane changing at speed by impatient, inconsiderate morons (mostly driving huge artics) who couldn't see that I was in a hurry to get home . . .

 

[rypt]

Oh. So you didn't need to perform an emergency stop then? You wouldnt need to if there was no hazard. So are you telling lies?

The hazard was caused by someone purposely getting in the way.

Let me ask you a question Fox, do you ALWAYS leave a gap big enough to stop in should the car ahead emergency brake?

Before you answer that, consider the fact that cars have different braking abilities, a light weight sports car with very good brakes and tyres can easily out brake a 3/5 series by a fairly large margin.

Do you take that into consideration when leaving a gap to the car ahead? If no, then you are not driving safely


As for your comment about pedestrians and slowing whenever you see them on the sidewalk ... no I don't. If they are suicidal enough to jump out in front of my car, they are welcome to do so.

 

[Scania]

The hazard was caused by someone purposely getting in the way.

Let me ask you a question Fox, do you ALWAYS leave a gap big enough to stop in should the car ahead emergency brake?

Before you answer that, consider the fact that cars have different braking abilities, a light weight sports car with very good brakes and tyres can easily out brake a 3/5 series by a fairly large margin.

And you have an obligation to drive with due care & consideration, which from what you write, you didn't.

Not sure about Fox, he can speak for himself, myself I adapt my driving to what type of vehicle I'm in, its load, and the conditions around me.

 

[[TW]Fox]

The hazard was caused by someone purposely getting in the way.

Correct, but until it happened, it was a potential hazard. Something you should have been aware of as you drove past a line of stationary traffic at 50mph.

Let me ask you a question Fox, do you ALWAYS leave a gap big enough to stop in should the car ahead emergency brake?

Depending on the situation sometimes, yes, if i feel the chance of the car in front doing so is reasonably high. I certainly wouldn't feel confident tanking past a stationary lane of traffic at 50mph because of the high chance of something going wrong.

Before you answer that, consider the fact that cars have different braking abilities, a light weight sports car with very good brakes and tyres can easily out brake a 3/5 series by a fairly large margin.

Define 'fairly large margin' but whilst doing so please consider that on a wet track my car was clocked with a 60-0 time of 2.7 seconds.

As for your comment about pedestrians and slowing whenever you see them on the sidewalk ... no I don't. If they are suicidal enough to jump out in front of my car, they are welcome to do so.

I didn't mean slow whenever there is one on a pavement - just be aware of what might happen and prime yourself to take action should one deviate towards the road, or whatever.

It's just general awareness!

 

[stockhausen]

... I adapt my driving to what type of vehicle I'm in, its load, and the conditions around me.

I'm delighted to hear it and have no doubt that you do.

I have to say that when driving late at night on motorways in contraflow areas covered by average speed cameras, I often find that lorries have a remarkable tendency to tail-gate.

40 or 50 MPH limits undoubtedly play havoc with trucker's tight schedules and it may even be that they are paying attention and could actually stop in an emergency. However, I still consider their inconsiderate, intimidating behaviour to be driving without due care and attention.


ps - I agree entirely with your analysis of Rypt's dangerous driving

 

[Scania]

I have to say that when driving late at night on motorways in contraflow areas covered by average speed cameras, I often find that lorries have a remarkable tendency to tail-gate.

40 or 50 MPH limits undoubtedly play havoc with trucker's tight schedules and it may even be that they are paying attention and could actually stop in an emergency. However, I still consider their inconsiderate, intimidating behaviour to be driving without due care and attention.

I see this often, its crazy.

The truck following has little idea if the truck infront is carrying a light or heavy load until they either reach a hill or, the truck in front brakes hard....

**** schedules, I take my time, bear in mind I'm paid by the hour and try to get there better late than never.

Unfortunately,whilst I'm sure the majority are considerate, it only takes a few morons with 44ton behind them to tar us all with the same brush.