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So DLSS has been taken out back and put out of its misery?
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You’re comparing the wrong cards from the lineup.
The 8800GTX is equivalent to 2080ti and ultra is equivalent to Titan RTX.
So the price jump is quite significant, but part of that is related to changes in exchange rates.
In 2006, it was nearly £1 = $2, now its a pathetic £1 = $1.27. VAT also went up a couple percent.
Best comparisons is to look at the USD price of the cards, but that doesn’t even take into account properly the exchange rate between USD and where the cards are manufactured, which I’m sure will have changed over the years too.
8800GTX was about $600
2080ti is $1000
8800Ultra was about $900
Titan RTX is $2500
Inflation rate since 2006 is approximately 42%
So $600 becomes $852
So if we work purely on that data (not taking into account changes in fuel and other transport costs, cost of living increases and other similar variables), the price of the 8800gtx level card has increased by around 15% in 13 years.
The top-tier card however, has been severely price gouged these last 2 generation.
The release price of Titan XP was the last time prices were roughly in line with pricing trends for the previous decade...
I don't personally need to see fantastic graphics in a game or the latest features like Ray Tracing even though these are nice, I much prefer quality gameplay.
Most of the latest games lack quality gameplay or replayability so I find myself playing Civ5 or Baldur's Gate 2 on an RTX Titan SLI setup lol.
What on Earth has gone wrong with modern gaming where the gameplay is so poor and the latest thing is to have features like Ray Tracing that barely work.
I do like the Turing cards as they are better than the alternatives but the price and poorly implemented features are massive negatives.
If NVidia had included Ray Tracing and DLSS into the Turing cards without pushing up the prices (ie the new 2080 Ti cost the same as the old 1080 Ti) hardly anyone would have been too concerned about how good these features were.
Most of the latest games lack quality gameplay or replayability so I find myself playing Civ5 or Baldur's Gate 2 on an RTX Titan SLI setup lol.
What on Earth has gone wrong with modern gaming where the gameplay is so poor and the latest thing is to have features like Ray Tracing that barely work.
I do like the Turing cards as they are better than the alternatives but the price and poorly implemented features are massive negatives.
If NVidia had included Ray Tracing and DLSS into the Turing cards without pushing up the prices (ie the new 2080 Ti cost the same as the old 1080 Ti) hardly anyone would have been too concerned about how good these features were.
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Oh I do so hope whatever it might be that it's way over priced , please let it be so.
100 ROFL, more marketing BS!
Last August there was a list of 20 odd RTX titles to receive support(some were existing released titles at that time) that they haven't delivered on we've got about 5 RTX to pick from today.
Exactly. I don't play many modern titles any more either, they are all show and no go.
They use fancy graphics to mask poor games now, and they know that fancy graphics will generally sell a game, and so dedicate most of their production budget to how a game looks, rather than plays.
Then there's the crowd that can't play the game unless every option is maxed out to calm their OCD.
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Further to crinkleshoes comment, when u got the 8800gtx (like I got one) u had a nice healthy performance over the previous cards. The 2080 is a sidegrade to a 2 year card with tagged on raytracing. The 2080rtx is the gtx8800 but now pretty much doubled the price.
Further to crinkleshoes comment though we can pretty much ignore the exchange rate conversion. If £1 was worth $2 now they would still be at best probably 10% cheaper. We all know how it works. Price rise when £ weakens, when £ recovers prices don't. Apple/Dell were guilty of that right? (Please correct me if I'm wrong I could well be)
I believe my gtx8800 is still working in my mates kids pc all these years later. Epic card!
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That's actually more than I thought by two
. BFV, SOTR, Metro are the only ones I've paid attention to. Only bought one of them so far however. Agree, it's taking time. I'd rather they focus more on new releases than retrofitting RT into current/older games.
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I want both!
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Yeh exactly, I wonder what kind of muppet it will take to believe them this time.
Looking through the thread now.......lol.
I'd be quite happy to see older games get the Ray Tracing experience... if done properly but I suspect it will just be slapped in over the top use of reflections that ruin the mood of many games in the name of shiny graphics. I think people vastly underestimate just how much it would add to many older games with just the subtle use of real time lighting with Ray Tracing versus older baked shadows and lack of or limited bounced/indirect lighting and other effects, etc.
Some games would benefit from a geometry update though - especially slapping high res textures in indiscriminately often just highlights how low detail the geometry is more than it enhances the surfaces with more detail.
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Wrong thread?
Honestly I think we'll be waiting 3+ years to even see 20 RTX games, let alone 100.
And that is the crux of the matter, the cards are good, but the prices are not.
An astronomical price rise, seemingly just because they can. ( I do think that releasing the 2080Ti along side the 2080 is partly to blame) but to be honest its done now so we will just have to see what they do with the next series.
780 $649
780Ti $699
980 $549
980Ti $649
1080 $699
1080Ti $699
2080 $699
2080Ti $999
Of course that doesn't cover the lower tier processors in higher tier cards and all that comes with that.
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The ever lasting hunger for more money out of everything which leads to fear of innovating and actually trying out new stuff. Add on top the weak hardware of the consoles and that's about it.
If you don't take into account SQ42/SC, what other games actually bothers to bring something new, something "next gen"?
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So "super" turned out to be nothing of the kind...
I presume they are going to up the ram speed and spin out a 1070ti at least as the 3700 will eat its cake if nvidia dont... well it will eat a little cake as most would still buy the slower nvidia product
I presume they are going to up the ram speed and spin out a 1070ti at least as the 3700 will eat its cake if nvidia dont... well it will eat a little cake as most would still buy the slower nvidia product
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So "super" turned out to be nothing of the kind... ...as most would still buy the slower nvidia product
Basically spot on. Needs far more mass adoption of consumers to warm to AMD cards before any change in the market is going to happen. I know intel will bring something to the table but I doubt they will challenge seriously for some time unless they claim a niche spot for something at a given price point.