Sony Planning 80GB PS3

barnettgs said:
Any drives that are mass-produced is cheaper to make.

Exactly.


Here's a list of the generation dates by the way (Not including small time competitors) for the people that don't want to trundle through that wiki link. The dates are the launch periods for each console.

Third Generation
NES: 1983-1987.
Master System: 1986 - 1987.

Fourth Generation
Mega Drive: 1988 - 1990.
SNES: 1990 - 1992.

Fifth generation
Saturn: 1994 - 1995.
PlayStation: 1994 - 1995.
N64: 1996 - 1997.

Sixth Generation
Dreamcast: 1998 - 1999.
PlayStation 2: 2000.
GameCube: 2001 - 2002.
Xbox: 2001 - 2002.

Seventh Generation
Xbox 360: 2005 - 2006.
PlayStation 3: 2006-2007.
Wii: 2006 -2007.


So we've waited a pretty long time for this generation compared with previous ones!
 
barnettgs said:
A bit similar to RAM.

When 20/60GB are not selling well in market as people now buy bigger drive, the cost bumps back up because smaller drives aren't mass produced anymore due to low demands. Any drives that are mass-produced is cheaper to make.

No matter what thought, the price will not eclipse each other

For example, you buy a 160GB Maxtor hard drive, then you buy a 200GB Maxtor Hard drive, now, although the 200GB thesedays is more popular, no matter how much production tails off the 200GB will never be cheaper than a 160GB, unless theres some of offer on, why? Well simply because if a bigger hard drive is cheaper, they are going to sell exactly zero 160GB hard drives. The price difference however may decrease, couple of years ago the price difference may have been 20-30 quid, now maybe its only a fiver, but it just wouldnt make sense to make it cheaper, even if limited amounts of 160 were made, because once the 200gb is cheaper than the 160gb, the remaining stock will not get sold, at all.

So I see your point, the price difference between a 20gb drive and a 80gb drive may not be hardly anything, despite its 4x capacity, so it would make sense and value to offer a larger drive at a smidgen more. However from a 60Gb drive to an 80Gb drive? The difference in price admitedly is small, and as 80-100gb are now commonplace in new laptops, it would probably make good value and sense to upgrade, but the cost from OCUK? I havnt looked but its probably only a few quid, so if Sony raised the price of an 80Gb model by say 20 quid - its extorsionate, if they dont raise it at all? Its harsh on the early adoptors, seing as the consoles only just come out its a bit soon to chance the hardware I see. I think the best way is to just include the cheapest GB/p ratio going at launch (Which I Imagine is why 60Gb was chosen) and then let users do their own upgrades, it we see an 80Gb ps3 in a few months, and a 100Gb ps3 in a few months later after that what will be the point? They can offer the same value, but it will cost them a bit more, not only that, they risk annoying their fan boy audience.
 
Efaws said:
No matter what thought, the price will not eclipse each other

Manufacturer buying != public buying.

They wouldn't even be thinking about it if it was anything more than 10p more expensive.

Efaws said:
if they dont raise it at all? Its harsh on the early adoptors, seing as the consoles only just come out its a bit soon to chance the hardware I see.

No it's not, the people who bought it agreed to pay their money for the product and specification they were being offered. Anyone who feels shortchanged
is just being ridiculous.
 
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Zefan said:
No it's not, the people who bought it agreed to pay their money for the product and specification they were being offered. Anyone who feels shortchanged
is just being ridiculous.

I feel exactly the same, but people WILL get annoyed

I remember reading forums with 10's of pages of people moaning about how their 360 didnt have HDMI, when the new one will have it as standard, I personally wouldnt be bothered, but some people saying it was a hardware change and it wasnt fair.

If they paid 280 for a console, they must have been happy with the price or they wouldnt have paid it, so seems fair in my book, but last thing sony need to do now is annoy more customers!
 
LOL

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there's not much you can do to fill a 60gb drive on the ps3 atm. Not without installing linux or using it as a media server, but most peopel doing that would be thinking of installing a bigger drive anyway. i know i am lol
 
Zefan said:
Exactly.


Here's a list of the generation dates by the way (Not including small time competitors) for the people that don't want to trundle through that wiki link. The dates are the launch periods for each console.

Third Generation
NES: 1983-1987.
Master System: 1986 - 1987.

Fourth Generation
Mega Drive: 1988 - 1990.
SNES: 1990 - 1992.

Fifth generation
Saturn: 1994 - 1995.
PlayStation: 1994 - 1995.
N64: 1996 - 1997.

Sixth Generation
Dreamcast: 1998 - 1999.
PlayStation 2: 2000.
GameCube: 2001 - 2002.
Xbox: 2001 - 2002.

Seventh Generation
Xbox 360: 2005 - 2006.
PlayStation 3: 2006-2007.
Wii: 2006 -2007.


So we've waited a pretty long time for this generation compared with previous ones!
Only Sony and Nintendo seem to be consistant with their console releases, with Sony releasing their next gen every six years and nintendo every five.

I thought it was bad MS releasing a new console only four years after the last, but Sega released the MegaDrive a poultry two years after the mastersystem :eek:
 
james.miller said:
there's not much you can do to fill a 60gb drive on the ps3 atm. Not without installing linux or using it as a media server, but most peopel doing that would be thinking of installing a bigger drive anyway. i know i am lol
I stuck a 120GB drive in mine and I have 80GB left, but I do have all my music and photos on there plus I cant be bothered deleting demos and trailers etc.
 
Joebob said:
I thought it was bad MS releasing a new console only four years after the last, but Sega released the MegaDrive a poultry two years after the mastersystem :eek:


Cause it was getting its ass handed to it by the nes. Sega seemed to have some dumb philosophy where if a console wasn't doing as well as expected then they would either release gimmicky addons or abandon it and make a new console. Screwed them over in the end, even though dreamcast was a good console people already had enough of their crap support.
 
it was always their plan to do this, i knew this last year that their would be different options available

Update: Sony has sent the following statement to Next-Gen: "As mentioned when we made the product announcement for PS3, the system will have different configurations (thus, 60GB HDD with memory card slots and Wi-Fi and 20GB HDD without memory card slots or Wi-Fi both exist).

"Application to the FCC has been made with various possibilities in mind, however, it does not lead to a new product announcement at this time."
 
McManicMan said:
Update: Sony has sent the following statement to Next-Gen: "As mentioned when we made the product announcement for PS3, the system will have different configurations (thus, 60GB HDD with memory card slots and Wi-Fi and 20GB HDD without memory card slots or Wi-Fi both exist).
Yeah but this is a braaaaand new rumour, not like the already released stuff.
 
If it turns out to be true, it won't matter..

<sarcasm>
It'll be OK, it's a good thing they removed the PS2 EE from the Euro Version, it's a good thing to launch it so late after the US/Japan, it's a good thing to have to pay for a million features that people don't need..

it'll be a good thing to increase the HDD and repair a bluetooth problem..

At least it's futureproof and twice as powerful as it's rivals</sarcasm>
 
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