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Sorry but this made my day.

Not being funny but who would be the one getting the **** ripped out of them at work, the guy who said something wrong, or the guy who spent all his night off compiling a dossier on how said person was wrong???
I've done and said things wrong at work before now, and if somebody came in the day after with a dossier of why I was incorrect I would be chuckling all the way around the workplace on how my mistake cost you your evening compiling evidence like the crown prosecution service.

Dave.
 
Life is too short and the idiots too numerous these days for me to bother with this sort of thing anymore lol used to be funny once but when it happens dozens and dozens of times it quickly loses it humour aspect. Have to go with Dave on his point though i know which one i would rip :).
 
davieg said:
Not being funny but who would be the one getting the **** ripped out of them at work, the guy who said something wrong, or the guy who spent all his night off compiling a dossier on how said person was wrong???
I've done and said things wrong at work before now, and if somebody came in the day after with a dossier of why I was incorrect I would be chuckling all the way around the workplace on how my mistake cost you your evening compiling evidence like the crown prosecution service.

Dave.
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First of, computers is my hobby so I enjoy learning more.

Secondly, playing counter strike while learning about a cell cpu isn't wasting a night... :cool:
 
Wingzero I have been researching Floating points and doing some calculations myself.

This has all really interested me :D

How did you work out the flops per core per cycle values for both the SB and PS3?
I have done an IBT at 4.7ghz and received 65Gflops on each run. So thats 65Flops per cycle for all cores so essential 65/4 would be 16.25 in double precision? As you stated IBT is infact double precision so the flops per core per cycle would be 32.5 instead of 16?

So essentially by doing your calculations but with my value in single precision it would be:
4 x 32 x 4.7 = 607GF :|
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I'm probably and most likely doing something wrong, user error tbh :D

Would be nice to chat with you a little more.
 
OK so you have expanded your own knowledge, thats fair enough and I wont pull you up on that, thats good for you. But I'm just giving you a little pre warning of how most workplaces work, yep the person was wrong, but don't forget you will be wrong to as well at one point, after being put right on the mistake, would you be expecting someone to come into work with a little folder of proof on why your conversation (which I take wasn't even work related, just a conversation between two people) proving why the remark you said the day before was incorrect, or would you just think jeez what a numpty and then go laugh about it with other work colleagues on how serious he had taken an unimportant conversation.
The only reason I could see doing this is if it was a lecturer forcing misinformation upon students, then that would probably be understandable.

Dave.
 
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It's only 1 page not a folder...
I'm not even certain i'll do it becuase I don't know if he'll blab it all out to his boss.

I think the fact he stormed out straight after was good enough for me tbh :D

You have a fair point but there are points that I see here at the workplace that may be seen differently at your work place and also the understanding of the staff member etc.
 
Yep thats very true, am not having a go at you, people like that really get on my nerves too, just out of experience (where I have worked, not your workplace so things may be different) I just didnt want you to make yourself look silly for the sake of proving this pain wrong.

Dave.
 
Oh mate, I love people like that

I had a teacher once say he had the best computer in the room (this was secondry school he was supply) and I asked him how and why he then replied "what Gigs does yours have?" I said a gig of memory and a 2.9GHZ P4 he then replied with "well mine has 3GIGS!!!!!" lmao

I don't think I ever laughed so hard in my life especially when I said he didn't know what he was talking about and started stressing in the middle of the Geog lesson :P When I asked him "memory or cpu speed" he just replied with "doesn't matter, mine have 3 yours doesn't mines better"

Had a boob in college say the xbox was the best thing ever and that for pc they have to turn down the graphics settings

However he did once say "I downloaded this programme upgraded the performance on my 8400GS and managed to complete Doom in 6 hours instead of my previous 9" lmao
 
Probably read an artical on the US military setting up 2000 PS3's in a supercomputing cluster for research purposes :).

From the article

United States Air Force has an interest in PlayStation 3s, and it’s not for gaming. The air-division of the US military wants the Sony gaming consoles for it’s cell processor, as it hopes to build a supercomputing cluster for research purposes.

The USAF already owns 336 PS3, clustered together for supercomputer research, but after their research program was awarded $2 million by the US Department of Defense, they placed an order for another 2,200, to add to their cluster of super computers. This isn’t as far fetched as it might sound, as the Cell processor featured inside the PS3 is the same featured inside the IBM Roadrunner, the world’s second fastest super computer. (Albeit, the PS3 features eight Cell processors, the Roadrunner features just a bit more at over 12,000). The Cell processor came about after a joint-venture between Sony, IBM and Toshiba.

Blog Sony Insider reports that the Air Force’s choice is more cost effective, as a comparable custom-built supercomputer solution could have cost the Air Force 13 times and considerable more engineering time than their solution of buying over 2,000 PlayStation 3s (and the supercomputers probably don’t play Blu-Ray movies, either). The Air Force specifically named the Intel Xeon-based supercomputers as being too slow and too expensive for their needs.

The needs of the cluster will primarily be research, but possible future Air Force applications include video processing, radar enhancement and investigations into ‘neuromorphic’ (or human thought-like) computing. Another goal of the PlayStation 3′s cluster research is to see if the Cell processor can be used in other military applications.
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If you really want to smash his world apart you should look at video cards which is the most important piece of hardware for gaming. AMD have said there latest video cards are 10x more powerful then console video chips and the processing power of a HD6990 towers over the cell CPU where its throughput is measured in Tflops where as cell is measured in Gflops.
 
Fact is a lot of people with consoles feel they have a supercomputer sitting in their lounge and that it is the greatest thing since the invention of the wheel. My experience with such types is no matter how many facts you throw at them they will always find the smalleest little thing to reinforce their belief it's a losing battle. Old saying of "never argue with an idiot they drag you down to their level and beat you with experience" is absolutely spot on lol.
 
When faced with people that just don't want to listen (even when you try), just let them believe it. It's not worth the time (especially if they happen to be your mates).
 
It wasn't the fact that he thought the PS3 cpu was the best, he also brought out absurd crap.

For example if no one has read it all.
"The sandy bridge is made to only run 2 programs"
"AMD make the ps3 CPU" Which to tell the truth I didn't know but I didn't argue that it was or wasn't because I didn't in fact know. Lieing in an argument just makes it even worse.

The sandy bridge effort got to me, becuase it literally made it so obvious he knew nothing about sandy bridge what so ever. Hell even a ruddy atom could run atleast 5 programs...

To tell the truth and this isn't even a lie. I facepalmed during the arguement to emphasise(Spelling? cbb to google) how much he was talking ****. I was sitting down so I put my elbow on the desk and just facepalmed, hard.

I have learnt a lot thanks to Wingzero and when he does ever argue back I will just lash out a pen and paper and do the calculations that WZ produced. I have learnt about how cell cpus work a bit and quite a bit about FLoating Point Operations :)
 
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