South Korea Jeju air plane crash

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Sad news to wake up to looks like 121 plus dead miraculously some of the crew survived.

Reports of a bird strike? Landing gear failed my amateur guess by the video is the pilot made a textbook landing but didn't know about the concrete wall at the end of the runway.

If that wall wasn't there I think everyone survives, this is South Korea worst air disaster from what Ive read now.

www.bbc.co.uk

South Korea plane crash: At least 124 killed as Jeju Air aircraft crashes as Muan International Airport

The Jeju Air plane, which was carrying 181 passengers, came off the runway and burst into flames as it landed.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
It's nothing short of a miracle that anyone survived that. Seems to be a lot of people saying the same, appears to be landing gear failure but it's being blamed on a bird strike. 2 crashes in 3 days, just awful :(
 
Looks like both things could have happened, a bird strike and then the landing gear failed, though if the first caused the latter is down to investigators now.
 
esmozz said:
I’m struggling to see how a bird strike causes the landing gear to appear to fail completely.
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From my professional experience of watching a lot of Air Crash Investigations programs ( :p ) I agree, but stranger things have happened.

Could have caused an electrical or hydraulic failure or even human error by being distracted, since it sounds like they had called mayday after the alleged strike.
 
How horrible. Saw the crash footage before bed last night and that was one hard landing.

I guess with most (if not all) crashes it's not just going to be one thing that brought this down, probably a multitude of factors.
 
In the event that there is a hydraulic failure on the side that controls the landing gear, there is still a manual option to get it lowered. There are 3 cables accessible in the flight deck which you pull, they release the landing gear interlocks and gravity causes to gear to lower. It’s a very simple mechanical system which should be very robust.
 
Doesn't the explosion imply fuel not dumped? Does that mean not only did the gear fail but the pilot either didn't know about it or couldn't dump fuel? Don't see any emergency vehicles around either so perhaps no radio down to prep for crash.
 
737s have no facility to dump fuel, instead they are capable of landing overweight up to the max landing weight in an emergency. The only way to reduce the amount of fuel onboard is to burn it normally in the engines which may necessitate circling for several hours. In addition fuel dumping is only performed in order to reduce weight and wouldn’t meaningfully reduce the risk of an explosion.
 
Bird strike whilst taking off?

Watched it skidding along the end of the runway, but why oh why have giant walls bang at the end!!?
 
alchal said:
Bird strike whilst taking off?

Watched it skidding along the end of the runway, but why oh why have giant walls bang at the end!!?
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Could be, I suppose. I assume it was seconds after wheels-up, he must have gone through a flock of birds. Lost hydraulics, not may landing options, really. Very scary. I certainly would not have wanted to be aboard that one.
 
Wonder if you could install a big net to at least slow a plane down at the end, kind of like the emergency ones on carriers.?
 
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