Southampton docked 10 points...

Whats the big fuss about Southampton getting docked ten points ?

Don't go into Administration ?
It's simple.

We played them a couple of weeks back and they were awful, spinelss and really bad.
Didn't look like a team fighting to stay up.
 
fans paying player wages?!?!?!?

I don't see why people are getting annoyed over this.

Southampton have being ran badly, and the FA punishment is -10 points for going into administation.

Now, they decided that it wouldn't be a punishment to take 10 points off this season as the club are already being relegated.

They will start next season on -10 points.
Thats if they make next season, It's the price you pay for letting your club be ran into the ground.

Fans paying wages, is really bad, shows the club are on the brink of collapse.
 
I don't see what your gripe is with Southampton to be honest? Don't know whether its the way I've read your posts or whether you have a chip on your shoulder about them or not.

Every Southampton fan knows how badly the club has been run and are fully aware that -10 points is the punishment for administration. Some make the argument that SLH and the football club are seperate entities, but as a fan myself I can't complain with our punishment as they seem to be one and the same to me.
 
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I don't see what your gripe is with Southampton to be honest? Don't know whether its the way I've read your posts or whether you have a chip on your shoulder about them or not.

Every Southampton fan knows how badly the club has been run and are fully aware that -10 points is the punishment for administration. Some make the argument that SLH and the football club are seperate entities, but as a fan myself I can't complain with our punishment as they seem to be one and the same to me.

No problem with Southhampton.

I've seen a lot of "we shouldn't get -10 points" around, You're club goes into administration, it's not the supporters fault, I feel sorry for them.

Bad management.
They won't win the appeal.
 
awful for the fans that have raised a lot of money to try and save the club to find out that there money has gone to a bunch of millionaires.

Wouldn't be so bad if some of the lazy gits actually played with a little passion, they've been going through the motion for weeks the performance at Sheffield Wednesday two weeks ago was as dire as any I have ever witnessed at any level including sunday league.
 
The FA's rule book states that the club must enter administration, the club (a legally seperate entity from SLH) has not entered administration.

Whether or not the FA thinks the two are intrinsically linked should not matter the real law says they are seperate entities. The FA have fudged the rules as they do quite regularly, if they wanted to cover this situation they should stipulate that holding companies who don't make X% of there income from non football business going into administration also triggers a points deduction.

I have said that morally we definately deserve the points deduction and I have no problem with it comming off at the start of next season as it makes sense. I do however have a problem with the FA making up rules as they go along and continuously looking like an ass. What other body would let a party with a massive conflict of interest sit on a panel making an important decision (Norwich Board member)?
So what you're say is, even though you think the club should receive a points fine, and that the debts of the holding company blatantly are those of the football club, they should escape punishment because they bent the rules in a way the FA's current laws don't perfectly plan for? :confused:
 
So what you're say is, even though you think the club should receive a points fine, and that the debts of the holding company blatantly are those of the football club, they should escape punishment because they bent the rules in a way the FA's current laws don't perfectly plan for? :confused:

I'm saying the FA's rule book states that the club must be in administration which it's not. The FA have made up a new rule on the spot to enable them to punish the club which has no basis in real law. While I agree that morally we deserve the points deduction the FA can't just go around changing the rules to suit the outcome they want. It's not confusing it's simple, imagine if you would that you ran someone down on the way home in terrible driving conditions whils doing the 60mph speed limit on the road and the policeman decided that this speed was unreasonable given the conditions so charged you with speeding, it makes no sense and a nonsense of the law.
 
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But for the analogy to fit properly, the guy driving would have been fully aware that the terrible conditions and his speeding ran a massive risk of accident, and you're saying that it would have been ok for him to get off scott free simply because the current rules didn't predict his negligence?

Anyway, in criminal law, plenty of charges have the flexibility to allow that kind of situation to be dealt with. You're saying the same shouldn't apply in football?

...the FA can't just go around changing the rules to suit the outcome they want.
Why on earth not? It's not like they're just making up a rule that says "All clubs must have blue grass on their pitches," and even then, they could do that too if they wanted to. They're the guys in charge, and they make up the rules that the clubs playing in their leagues have to abide by. That would have course be a stupid rule that most would disagree with, but you'll find no complaints from me (or most people) about them closing a blatantly exploitable loophole here.
 
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