SP2004 Orthos.. Crashes on Stock?

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Howdy,

Firstly my spec is:

ASUS A8N-SLi Premium [w/ Zalman ZM-NB47J Northbridge Cooler]
AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ [w/ Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro]
Corsair 2GB DDR XMS3200 Twinx
BFG Geforce 7800 GTX OC [With Zalman VF700-CU]
Hiper HPU-4K580-MK Type-R 580W ATX2.2 PSU

And I done some overclocking last night and followed it exactly to the letter as Jokester says and all was going well. I got to a point where I thought I'd peaked, as my core temps where getting high, so I let SP2004 Orthos run for 35mins and it had no probs.

I rebooted for the sake of it (didn't change any BIOS stuff) run Orthos again and it shut down my PC after 3 mins?

At this point I thought, oh well it wasn't stable. So I put EVERYTHING in the BIOS back to auto to run a test there (cos I was getting strange results from orthos), so it was running exaclty as it was 2 years ago when I built the thing. It has been running in these settings since then under numerous loads, and I have never had a crash (well not one that was random anyway).

Well I run a test again on stock, and Orthos crashed out after 3 minutes again? Now this can't be right can it? Certainly not temps, as they only reach 42 on load... so could it be Orthos being bad? I had Orthos on Priority 9 btw... which is way more intense than 1!

I've just downloaded Prime95, and gonna run that and see if that crashes out at stock?

Anyone else had this problem?

ta

Steve M
 
Sorry should have said that, yeah I reset it and put all the settings I needed to put back, back.

Why does my Hiper scare you? Its not a Corsiar PSU thank god, but do the Hipers implode too?
 
You forgot the "I love my Hiper!" thread.

If it goes bad, it doesn't usually take anything out with it, and they give you another one. If it worries you, stick it on MM - for £45 someone will bite your hand off, which is a sure sign they're fine.
 
So you are saying that you think its my PSU that is conking out on me, and not anything to do with the overclock?

If so, what PSU's do you recommend at the moment that are not known to "implode"?

Fortuntely (at the moment) it only conks out on load, as its never just shut down before, in the 2 years my PC has been in use... everyday pretty much!
 
No! Don't necessarily think its the PSU. Pretty strange though. Reseat everything if possible and try again. If you have another psu to test, give it a whirl.
 
I have already reset everything though, CMOS the lot and got it back to default.

It never just conks out though as I said, I havent had ANY problems at all with my PSU, and IMO so far its been fantastic. Its only when I run Orthos, but its very random, its works, then it dont work etc.

And when it shut my PC down on the stock settings I assumed that it was Orthos that had some bugs (it is in beta after all). But now I'm thinking it could be the PSU? After all them posts above, scary :)

I've been thinking, how comes I can only seem to clock my 4400+ to 2.4ghz on non stock coolers, when others on stock have got it higher? And when I get to that speed, my temps are ok... so I know its not that shutting the system down?

I've not got another PSU knocking around I can test it with unfortuntely? Is there any other way I can test for sure if its the PSU or not? Are there any PSU benchmark/stability tools out there? I guess not?

Any other ideas?

ta

Steve M
 
Which Orthos test are you running and does your RAM need any special settings (extra voltage etc.) to run stable - even at stock?
 
I'm Running Blend (CPU and RAM) and I wouldn't have thought my RAM would need a non default setting to work, but I suppose it could.

I'll set that to 2.75v as that is what it should be set at according to Corsair... but what should my 4400+ vcore voltage be set at by default?

tbh on Auto settings my vcore maxs at 1.28v (1.29v maybe), 1.28v on 2.2ghz seems abit low to me? What do you think the 4400+ vcore should be set at running at stock speeds?

Let me know what you think, then I will get everything at stock, and set my DDR Voltage to 2.75, and my VCore to whatever you suggest and I will run a Orthos full test for 8 hours minimum, and see what happens.

ta

Steve M
 
If you only run Small FFTs then you only test the CPU. If you run blend, then you stress both. To rule out the CPU maybe you could run Small FFTs and use Memtest on the RAM?
 
keogh said:
Why does my Hiper scare you? Its not a Corsiar PSU thank god, but do the Hipers implode too?
Corsairs are meant to be the best psus out at the moment!

I've seen one report of one dying, but all psus die, just not as often as Hipers do recently!
 
PinkFloyd said:
Corsairs are meant to be the best psus out at the moment!

I've seen one report of one dying, but all psus die, just not as often as Hipers do recently!

Yeah I saw the one post about that and thought, oh they must be bad... as I havent seen any other posts about bad PSUs (missed all hiper ones) so I just assumed.

But after looking around it would appear the corsair are quite good...but I always got the impression enermax where good... and would be swayed towards one of those when the times comes I think?

I'll try a few stress tests and see what happens.

ta
 
enermax it will be then :)

I'm gonna try a few more of those tests... just to see what the prob is, but I will stick with keeping my RAM timings tighter and thats it for now, don't fancy rebooting my PC 1,000,000,000,000 times to get the CPU clocked again.

My PC was top spec (as good as) when I bought all the parts from here 2 years ago, its getting old hat now and I'm due a new rig I think. Might wait for the next round of GeForce cards to make an appearence first then I will be specing out a new machine!... Now thats an exciting time!
 
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