Spanish Grand Prix 2013, Barcelona - Race 5/19
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Now that was funny !
I suspect JB went tactical and opted to start on his choice of tyre instead of fighting for ultimate grid position.
We'll soon find out !
I am getting tired of JB whingeing about every little thing on the radio. Just shut up and get on with it !
I suspect JB went tactical and opted to start on his choice of tyre instead of fighting for ultimate grid position.
We'll soon find out !
I am getting tired of JB whingeing about every little thing on the radio. Just shut up and get on with it !
During the 3 years they were together, Button and Hamilton were very similar on points and race positions. Hamilton had a slight edge, though. On race day they tended to be able to drive to similar lap-times.
One thing which I still have not seen proved is Button's alleged ability to look after tyres. Since tyres have become the limiting factor in F1, I have yet to see Button do a stupendously long run. I've Perez and Di Resta do this, but never Button.
In terms of tyre management, I'd say Alonso is about the best that F1 currently has to offer.
Are you saying that he "probably" drove slow on purpose?
This is slightly skewed by Hamilton having an absolutely terrible year in 2011.
But as always with Button, when things are right, he's brilliant. But when they aren't, he drops right back and starts moaning on the radio. He is not the driver McLaren need to help drag forward an under performing car.
Ted's qually notebook - http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/8707228/ted's-notebook-spain-qualifying - as random as ever 
Also found this
Also found this
Tee heehee
No.. I think he gave up and took what he thought was his next best option.
It's worked for others this year !
Gets choice of tyre and saved tyres as well...and we know how critical that is.
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great news, looking forward to todays race.
Quite surprised at today's odds..
9/4 Vettel
11/4 Alonso
7/2 Raikkonen
6/1 Hamilton
15/2 Rosberg
I guess they're expecting Mercedes to fall away horribly again.. hope so anyway
Bet365 have a 'best of the rest' market which is the drivers from Force India, Toro Rosso, Williams, Sauber and the 2 milk float teams. Di Resta is 6/4 to win that, surely he only has to keep it on the track against that lot!
9/4 Vettel
11/4 Alonso
7/2 Raikkonen
6/1 Hamilton
15/2 Rosberg
I guess they're expecting Mercedes to fall away horribly again.. hope so anyway
Bet365 have a 'best of the rest' market which is the drivers from Force India, Toro Rosso, Williams, Sauber and the 2 milk float teams. Di Resta is 6/4 to win that, surely he only has to keep it on the track against that lot!
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Certainly. But are you going to hold that again Button?
The fact is that during their 3 year stint together, statistically, they were level pegging, with Hamilton having a slight edge.
Their top 3 is what I predicted a few days ago and I'm happy with that.
People seem too ready to count out Vettel. Vettel is the consummate master at scoring points. He has proven this for the last 3 years. NEVER EVER bet against Vettel, unless you get very good odds. Oh and if you need more proof, check out the WDC table...he's in 1st place.
I feel that (British) people rate Hamilton a little too highly, especially given that he has only won 1 title in the last few years. He had (arguably) the best car in 2013. but failed to beat Vettel, Alonso and especially Kimi (who had the 4th best car). I was very impressed with Kimi.
Until Hamilton actually starts winning, I wouldn't place him as the winner in any race prediction - even if he does qualify in pole.
Would agree it's between Seb, Kimi and Alonso today, Alonso will need a really good opening lap though if he is to win I think.
Not sure how you can blame Lewis for not winning last year though, they did have a fast car but it was not Lewis that let them down, it was their own reliability.
Not sure how you can blame Lewis for not winning last year though, they did have a fast car but it was not Lewis that let them down, it was their own reliability.
Hamilton didn't have the best car last year because it was unreliable and his team didn't help.
The points he dropped last year that weren't his fault are comparible to the points he dropped in 2011 that were his fault.
Last year he could/would have been contesting the title with Vettel if it wasn't for those lost points.
The points he dropped last year that weren't his fault are comparible to the points he dropped in 2011 that were his fault.
Last year he could/would have been contesting the title with Vettel if it wasn't for those lost points.
I'm just saying that the reason why they are close when compared over 3 years is because your comparing 3 years for Button to 2 years and a pantomime for Lewis.
What's the gap like if you just do 2010 and 2012?
When both in good cars setup how they like they are close, but Hamilton is ahead. Button then drops back when his car isn't perfect, while Hamilton drops back when his head explodes and he drives like a **** for 6 months. Button didn't have a bad car in 2010 to 2012, while Hamilton did have a fail year.
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Yep. They had the fastest car last year, which is not the same as having the best car.