Jenson Button, the Theo Walcott of DM's F1 world.
Spanish Grand Prix 2014, Catalunya - Race 5/19
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Jenson Button, the Theo Walcott of DM's F1 world.
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When you blame a rookie because you can't set up your own car right(and have proven this for years), it's an absolute statement(which he clearly didn't intend it to be) of his problems setting up a car.
What would be the reaction of Alonso or Vettel, with a rookie alongside them, blamed them for their own lack of ability to get the car set up better? I'd laugh at them, I'd laugh at Hamilton if he did the same, or anyone else. but them I don't remember Hamilton having a half season where every radio message was "my balance sucks" followed by a half season of copying his team mates set up and doing better.
Lol, where has he once blamed his poor set up on Magnusson?
He's done nothing of the sort. You are making stuff up to fit an agenda.
Yes he is terrible at setting up and qualifying, but at no point has he said that is down to Magnuson. All he has said, and is quite right. A rookie will not have the knowledge to progress development as much as an experienced driver. Nothing more nothing less. He's also said the entire team "we're" not doing good enough.
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gloves can come off and all out warfare can happen, but only once it's mathematically impossible for someone else to sneak in. If they carry on like this there could be half a season of all out warfare. He even went on to say they can even drive over each other if needed.
http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1...hamiltonrosberg-duel-once-rivals-out-of-fight
gloves can come off and all out warfare can happen, but only once it's mathematically impossible for someone else to sneak in. If they carry on like this there could be half a season of all out warfare. He even went on to say they can even drive over each other if needed.http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1...hamiltonrosberg-duel-once-rivals-out-of-fight
How on Earth do you come to the conclusion that Jenson copied Hamilton's car set up?
They have both completely different driving style's. Jenson's is ultra smooth (as has been consistently pointed out this season by Martin Brundle track side)...
I've lost count of the amount of times Brundle has said Button looks ultra smooth driving through corners when he's been watching track side in the practice sessions. I've never heard him say that about Lewis.
Jenson prefers a car which turns in how he wants it, where he feels the car through the amount of understeer it generates when arriving at the apex, navigating and feeling the front of the car and nose turn-in for grip, and sets up for a predictable rear end which he isn't having to fight and knows what to expect from it.
Lewis prefers a car which has an unpredictable, oversteer driven rear end which he can wrestle through the corners and prefers a car that he feels though the rear, correcting oversteer and making adjustments on the steering wheel to compensate for this.
Do you work for Mclaren, dm? Have you got access to telemetry that we haven't, do you have black and white evidence for your statements or are you just spouting paragraphs of drivel again?
Infact, during their head to head together, in equal machinery, over three years (where JB outpointed Hamilton) the only shred of telemetry which was publicised between the pair was at Spa in 2012 - where Hamilton got butt-hurt by Jenson's complete and utter dominance in Qualifying setup and Race setup.. so much so that he had to cry to his fans on Twitter and post sensitive car setup data of the difference between his and JB's car that weekend...
Yeah, Jenson really did copy Hamilton's car setup at Mclaren
But please, do enlighten us with a few PDFs of these car setup sheets so we can see for ourselves how Jenson used Hamilton's car setup for his own races... looking forward to receiving them.
They have both completely different driving style's. Jenson's is ultra smooth (as has been consistently pointed out this season by Martin Brundle track side)...
I've lost count of the amount of times Brundle has said Button looks ultra smooth driving through corners when he's been watching track side in the practice sessions. I've never heard him say that about Lewis.
Jenson prefers a car which turns in how he wants it, where he feels the car through the amount of understeer it generates when arriving at the apex, navigating and feeling the front of the car and nose turn-in for grip, and sets up for a predictable rear end which he isn't having to fight and knows what to expect from it.
Lewis prefers a car which has an unpredictable, oversteer driven rear end which he can wrestle through the corners and prefers a car that he feels though the rear, correcting oversteer and making adjustments on the steering wheel to compensate for this.
Do you work for Mclaren, dm? Have you got access to telemetry that we haven't, do you have black and white evidence for your statements or are you just spouting paragraphs of drivel again?
Infact, during their head to head together, in equal machinery, over three years (where JB outpointed Hamilton) the only shred of telemetry which was publicised between the pair was at Spa in 2012 - where Hamilton got butt-hurt by Jenson's complete and utter dominance in Qualifying setup and Race setup.. so much so that he had to cry to his fans on Twitter and post sensitive car setup data of the difference between his and JB's car that weekend...
Yeah, Jenson really did copy Hamilton's car setup at Mclaren
But please, do enlighten us with a few PDFs of these car setup sheets so we can see for ourselves how Jenson used Hamilton's car setup for his own races... looking forward to receiving them.
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Jenson's said he'll quit when he's bored, and I think he'll get bored if he has to go back to a bad car. I think he will be at McLaren next year, but it'll be his last season.
"Button confirmed that the start point for this effort will be to work from Lewis Hamilton’s set up and then evolve from there, “The fist thing you do is set the car up like the other one and that’s how we’ll do it initially,” he said. “I won’t be as quick as him on those settings but then we can work from there and find a set up that works for me"
And he never beat Lewis in the points. You come out with the same BS to often.
"and find a set up that works for me"
and cumalative points - over three years, in the same garage - he outscored Lewis. Cheers.
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wow
never been a fan of button but what a tit.
time McClaren give him the boot instead of having some kind of emotional attachment to him because of the loss of Papa Smurf.
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To be fair, there aren't many worse cars at the moment.
Same, but he's still beating Rosberg....
When he gets the car right it seems Rosberg can't touch him.
4 wins in 5 races, with the non-win being a reliability issue no fault of his own.
Yeah, he needs to get to grip with this car ASAP. He's struggling.
What a meaningless stat. Had every season the car been the best on the grid well:
Seasons finished higher in standings: Hamilton 2 / Button 1
So Hamilton would have won 2 world titles and Button one. Which would have been better most points over 3 seasons or 2 world titles to 1?
You literally have nothing else to cling to except points over 3 seasons, every where else he got beat, so I understand why you cling to it so desperately. You could win a world title 5 years on the trot against a team mate who finished just behind, only to them get beat in year 6 by a big margin giving the driver with 1 title most points over 6 to his rival. Who would care?
I supported Button when next to no one else did on here, but no top line team should be running a driver that qualifies so badly since the mid point of 2009. It's such a big part of strategy and he blows at it. If he started like Alonso he might get away with it but he doesn't. He got one pole in his whole time at Mclaren. He's become captain slow and steady.
Top guy but Mclaren really need to look elsewhere, I'm sure Ron will.
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We hear much less of Alonso though. The British media are all over Button and Hamilton. I'm certain Alonso complains about the car more than most. The difference is he still gets in it and drives the wheels off the thing - something Button can't or doesn't always do.
I like Button as a bloke (what we see of him anyway), but haven't often rated him as a top driver. Good and capable of stunning, but it doesn't happen anywhere near enough. Solid and dependable in terms of reliability though (which isn't always a positive).
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I do like the guy, I just don't think he's as good as the Alonso's/Hamilton's of this world. He's a solid number two driver though and probably a dream for any team with regards to promotions, marketability and being the face of a team. You know he's never going to do anything silly and give you negative publicity either.
You're probably right about Alonso too although I don't know how harsh Ferrari are with regards to their guys publicly talking negatively about the car..
You're probably right about Alonso too although I don't know how harsh Ferrari are with regards to their guys publicly talking negatively about the car..
Well, seeing as last time he did it he quickly got publicly rebuked by Montezemelo, I'd say very
Ferrari have a history of such thing (Prost?), to criticise them is akin to taking a **** in the Pope's skull cap.