Speaker in my Shower

easyrider said:
Is there a way of using the line out of the Squeezebox and connecting to my amp and speakers without a wire? :o
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Something like the JBL WEM-1 would work; Rocketfish also do something similar. Alternatively bodge it with a video sender of sorts. But it all sounds a bit messy just to use a Squeezebox. Can you not mount the Squeezebox near the amp?

Alternatively, and cheaply (could even grab a 1st/2nd gen from the bay), you could create a headless music front end using a ATV with XBMC installed and just use the Android XBMC remote.
 
Have the squeezebox radio but havn't used the lineout to an amp so can't comment on that but the Logitech Squeezebox™ Touch should be able to connect directly to your amp and control via the Squeezebox app but not the cheapest so pushing close to sonos money (although logitech did have it on promo a few months back for £150 so may turn up again or a blemish box)
 
rafster said:
AFAIK Sonos only supports playing from iOS mobile wise, and cannot stream from Android. Your sources if you used Sonos would be an online provider (e.g. Spotify), internet radio, any network share/nas drive.

Your amp does not need to form part of it, you can get a Sonos Connect:AMP and that will drive the speakers. The Sonos Bridge you use to effectively build/extend the Sonos wireless mesh (e.g. the Connect:AMP does not need to be hard wired, but you will need a bridge or another Sonos device to be hardwired). You control Sonos from any IOS / Android / Pc etc

Why do you need to stream from your SGSII? Can't you use Spotify or Nas drive?
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Android happily streams to my Sonos units. In the stock music player press the menu button, select 'output' and it finds the Sonos units as Wifi players. Just pick one from the list, press play and Robert's your father's brother.
 
I'd still go with inceilings to be honest. A bathroom has too many hard reflective surfaces for serious stereo listening. The sound is bouncing round the room and it messes up the imaging. Decent quality inceilings strike the right balance between build quality, performance and cost.

For the last five years I have installed Flatline / Kinetic inceilings in the majority of the multiroom projects I have completed. They give me B&W/Kef/MA performance for Sonance/Polk/Proficient pricing. They're good enough to show the difference in sound quality between a Sonos Connect:Amp and a Connect driving an external Hi-Fi amp.

Here's a recent project where E160-ICS single point stereos were installed in 3 bathrooms LINK The head-end on this job was ZP90 Connects in to a Sonance 12 channel zone amp.

Deals come up on gear every now and then so it's always useful to keep your options open, if you know what I mean ;)
 
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easyrider said:
These are the ones I was going to go and have a pair of them in the shower ceiling

http://www.kef.com/html/en/showroom...s/ci_series/fact_sheet/round/ci50r/index.html

£78 for the pair same size as the spots already in situ
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Ah, your original link pointed to some inwalls. The new link makes more sense, but you do know that those are just tweeters, right? There will be no bass. You'll need to buy the accessory bass box to go with them.

The system is called Soundlight. This is because the speakers and bass box ports look the same size as 50mm downlights. Here's a link to the bass box.

You should also beware 4 Ohm load on the amp. Be careful with the choice of amp.
 
lucid said:
Ah, your original link pointed to some inwalls. The new link makes more sense, but you do know that those are just tweeters, right? There will be no bass. You'll need to buy the accessory bass box to go with them.

The system is called Soundlight. This is because the speakers and bass box ports look the same size as 50mm downlights. Here's a link to the bass box.

You should also beware 4 Ohm load on the amp. Be careful with the choice of amp.
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Says on Kefs site

The Ci Series Ci50R comprises a 50mm full range speaker. Performance should meet or exceed the following criteria: frequency response 1 metre on-axis with swept sinewave shall be 155Hz to 20kHz, system sensitivity shall be at least 82dB for 2.83V@1m. The driver impedance shall be 6 ohms.


I'm confused?

EDIT@ Chnage of plan now...Not messing with subwoofers and stuff....will have to look at other options
 
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sigh.... why are you messing about with these little speakers? All of them are bass limited. These ones are further handicapped by a fairly appauling efficiency. For sound quality you might as well take a showerproof radio in with you.

For similar money you could have a decent single point stereo speaker with 6.5" woofer and twin directional tweeters, 8 ohm impedance and high efficiency. It will be an easier load on an amp, it will produce decent bass and actually be enjoyable to listen to as well. Do you hear that thudding sound? That's my head beating to a bloody pulp against a brick wall.... lol
 
lucid said:
sigh.... why are you messing about with these little speakers? All of them are bass limited. These ones are further handicapped by a fairly appauling efficiency. For sound quality you might as well take a showerproof radio in with you.

For similar money you could have a decent single point stereo speaker with 6.5" woofer and twin directional tweeters, 8 ohm impedance and high efficiency. It will be an easier load on an amp, it will produce decent bass and actually be enjoyable to listen to as well. Do you hear that thudding sound? That's my head beating to a bloody pulp against a brick wall.... lol
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I'm hearing you lol...I'm hearing you!!!!!

Space is limited you see. Does the speaker need to be in the shower then? or can it just be in the centre of the room?

I thought it would sound better in the shower from the noise of the water and the extractor fan etc...

Whats the seperation like on these stereo speakers? Can you get me one cheap? :p
 
You have either 14" or 16" joist centres in the ceiling space. Either way these larger in ceiling speakers will fit quite comfortably.

The sort of speakers you have looked at so far will be fine in a bathroom; just don't put them directly over the shower. You wouldn't put anything other than a marine speaker directly over any source of running water where it would be at risk from being splashed. You need an IP65 rated speaker for that and either very deep pockets or a willingness to sacrifice all pretentions to audio quality :D

I have used the Russound 5C51S in the shower/steam room of a private gym. I would have chosen a Kinetic RS650ICS normally, but the ceiling void was unusually small, so I had to use a shallow speaker. The Russound fitted the bill but the sound isn't a patch on the Kinetics I used elsewhere.

This is their single point stereo speaker (not my web site btw, but good images nonetheless) LINK This is what I have used in most bathroom installations for the last 5 years. They have been bullet-proof.
 
lucid said:
sigh.... why are you messing about with these little speakers? All of them are bass limited. These ones are further handicapped by a fairly appauling efficiency. For sound quality you might as well take a showerproof radio in with you.

For similar money you could have a decent single point stereo speaker with 6.5" woofer and twin directional tweeters, 8 ohm impedance and high efficiency. It will be an easier load on an amp, it will produce decent bass and actually be enjoyable to listen to as well. Do you hear that thudding sound? That's my head beating to a bloody pulp against a brick wall.... lol
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This is pretty much what my shower soundsystem uses, except I'm using 3" paper cones for everything above 2KHz or so. It does go rather loud which is good as you need a nice amount of SPL in order to hear your music over the sound of the shower. ;)

Also, wall tiles and a small room gives for some 'interesting' acoustics. You get quite a bass boost in a similar way to a smallish car, and the mirrors, tiles and other hard surfaces will add a little reverb which can make some music sound better but other music sound worse.

When I can I'll get a few photo's of my setup, even though it looks horrible it works and makes showering less of a chore. :o
 
lucid said:
You have either 14" or 16" joist centres in the ceiling space. Either way these larger in ceiling speakers will fit quite comfortably.

The sort of speakers you have looked at so far will be fine in a bathroom; just don't put them directly over the shower. You wouldn't put anything other than a marine speaker directly over any source of running water where it would be at risk from being splashed. You need an IP65 rated speaker for that and either very deep pockets or a willingness to sacrifice all pretentions to audio quality :D

I have used the Russound 5C51S in the shower/steam room of a private gym. I would have chosen a Kinetic RS650ICS normally, but the ceiling void was unusually small, so I had to use a shallow speaker. The Russound fitted the bill but the sound isn't a patch on the Kinetics I used elsewhere.

This is their single point stereo speaker (not my web site btw, but good images nonetheless) LINK This is what I have used in most bathroom installations for the last 5 years. They have been bullet-proof.
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The Kineticis £159 and the Monitor audio is £125 You said the Kinetic gives MA performance ...what is you expert opinion of the MA?

Thanks for your input BTW its great to chat to someone who does it for real :)


http://www.ceilingspeakers-uk.co.uk...c165-t2.aspx?gclid=CKKB0-vf968CFQ8htAodZGH_Eg

or

http://www.ceilingspeakers-uk.co.uk/shop/ceiling-speakers/kinetic/kinetic-kisp-e160-ics.aspx

or

http://www.cyberselect.co.uk/product/116
 
The MA speakers...I like MA as a brand and use their Hi-Fi speakers a lot and their inwalls occasionally. I haven't used their inceilings, but I think they'll be pretty decent.

Both the MA and the Kinetic are a 6.5" bass driver plus twin titanium dome tweeters. The Kinetic delivers more bass - 45Hz vs 60Hz - but either will make good sounds albeit slightly less authoritative from the MA. If you were paying retail then your head would say Kinetic but your heart would yearn for the Monitor Audio... if you were paying retail ;) :D. Once the grill is on each though it's purely aesthetics and sound quality that's left as the decider.
 
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